Dying ash under TPO hanging over property

[Paul in the woods]

I know it's hard to tell from photos but that tree doesn't look to be badly affected by ash die back to me, certainly not as bad as many of my trees. It doesn't look great, looks like canker on the stem, but I would say there a fair bit of life left in it.

 

Still curious to see what the outcome of a phone call would achieve...

[daltontrees]

On 25/02/2024 at 19:13, Botty Cough said:

What a load of twoddle. Just wack notice on it due to conditions and take it out.

They very rarely reply let alone within a week 

A couple of things to observe here. Firstly you are being needlessly offensive. Second you are wrong. I hope you aren't advising customers of clients, at least for their sakes. Try and keep up to date with what the law is. You're jsut making a fool of yourself. I was trying to be helpful by pointing out your mistake. Even if you don't care, perhaps it might remind others that the dying and diseased exemption hasn't existed for over a decade.

[Joe Newton]

On 23/02/2024 at 10:56, nick9one1 said:

Hi all,

 

My property backs onto a conservation area in Nottinghamshire which is predominantly Ash. The land is managed my Nottinghamshire Wildlife Trust, who I've emailed a couple of times in an attempt to prompt them to cut back or remove the tree. They recently had an arborist fell a few trees in the conservation area but unfortunately not the one that overhangs my property. 
The tree in question has dropped a few of branches from the canopy over the last couple of years so I'm concerned that it may cause some damage if one hits a person or shed etc. 
After the recent work the trust have closed the footpath's that run through the conservation area, putting up signs that say it isn't safe due to the trees being badly affected by ash dieback.
My thoughts are that if it isn't safe to walk under the trees, then it surely isn't safe to be in my garden under the same trees?
A couple of weeks ago I emailed them a second time making this point but I haven't had a response. 

I has a quote for £950 from a local arborist to remove the overhanging tree. - This was before I was aware that the tree was under TPO and would need additional approval, risk assessment etc. from the trust. 
 
Ideally I want the trust to send their own arborist to remove the tree at no cost to me. But it feels like I'm talking to a brick wall. 

Does anyone have experience or thoughts on what I can do next? 
Maybe I can hire an Ash specialist to create a written report that I can present to the trust? 

2nd image below shows the branches that have died and fallen

3rd image is along the fenceline with my property on the left, showing how much the tree is leaning over the boundary. 

Thanks!

I'll do it for £650.

[Botty Cough]

26 minutes ago, daltontrees said:

A couple of things to observe here. Firstly you are being needlessly offensive. Second you are wrong. I hope you aren't advising customers of clients, at least for their sakes. Try and keep up to date with what the law is. You're jsut making a fool of yourself. I was trying to be helpful by pointing out your mistake. Even if you don't care, perhaps it might remind others that the dying and diseased exemption hasn't existed for over a decade.

Pfffft just cut it.... It needs doing and once it's on the deck it's done...

 

[nick9one1]

I've made a little progress with the Trust. The person I had been in contact via email came round and we had a chat about the tree. The reserve manager was planning to come too but he got tied up with some escaped cows 🤷‍♂️
 

Anyway, the conversation was very much focused around Ash dieback disease. And how the trees are assessed. They grade the trees 1-4.  3 or 4 on a boundary would be enough for the trust to apply to remove the tree, but they usually leave 1 or 2. He said the tree didn't look too bad 

He explained how the TPO means that where the Trust could normally identify trees that they would manage within the reserves, they have had to commission an independent Level 4 Arboriculture Survey (as requested by the local authority) which then needs to be submitted for consent, and can only deliver what is put forward within the survey and subsequently permitted.

They are commissioning another Level 4 Arb Survey this summer with a view to planning the next programme of work in the winter and will point out the tree to the surveyor and ask that it is included in the programme, and will extend the offer to look at the trees from my property. However, this would still be dependent on gaining consent to deliver the work from Newark & Sherwood District Council – He has already made contact with the Tree Officer so that they can have an early discussion about the approach and ensure they do not get held back with the work.

We also had another branch come down in some recent winds. There was no damage but I think that is only down to luck. I also noticed that one of the branches that hangs at a low angle seems to have split and have a hole all the way through (Video).

 

[peds]

My opinion here is worthless, as I'm not standing next to the tree poking at it.

That said, it looks fairly healthy to me, that split branch doesn't look like a recent injury (a couple of years at least), and the kind of force needed to split open a branch like that (be it wind, impact of falling branch from above, teenagers bouncing on it etc.) would just shear off the same branch on a tree with dieback. 

 

That's not to say it doesn't have dieback now, but it's in the early stages if it does.

 

Again, I'm not under the tree, and I'm happy to be corrected. 

[GarethM]

Simple solution, you're worried about it.

 

You do the paperwork and legwork, get the permission from owner and council and pay to take it down.

 

Like a fast track system where you also get to say I'm helping a "charity". Charity must be pronounced like Smashie & Nicey.

[Mark Bolam]

But don’t talk about it, great mate.

[Steven P]

ooh, giving to charity... can you offset that cost against tax, and they could get the gift aid too!

[GarethM]

10 minutes ago, Steven P said:

ooh, giving to charity... can you offset that cost against tax, and they could get the gift aid too!

Yeah, the government throws in next doors tree as a sweetener.