Diesel heater for workshop

[GarethM]

When you buy fuel it'll get recorded and no doubt linked to your reg number for tax purposes.

 

Red is taxed at 5%, which begs the question. Do you put red or white in your diesel chipper?.

[doobin]

Just now, GarethM said:

When you buy fuel it'll get recorded and no doubt linked to your reg number for tax purposes.

 

Red is taxed at 5%, which begs the question. Do you put red or white in your diesel chipper?.

Domestic tree surgery is now fine to use red. 
 

The 5% is the reduced rate of VAT, which makes no difference as most tree surgeons claim the VAT back anyhow. The rate of fuel duty is considerably less than white- I think it’s around 11 pence per litre whereas white is 55 pence

per litre. 

[GarethM]

Red is around 80p Inc 5%, white is 1.55 Inc 20%. So you'd be daft to use white, especially if your garage sells red.

 

Or get a small bunded tank and buy in the summer, it was 63p delivered.

Edited December 6, 2023 by GarethM

[Mark Bolam]

Any thoughts on propane heaters appreciated as well, I’m not tied to (red) diesel.

 

We’re only looking at a few hours a week in the winter.

[GarethM]

12 minutes ago, Mark Bolam said:

Any thoughts on propane heaters appreciated as well, I’m not tied to (red) diesel.

 

We’re only looking at a few hours a week in the winter.

Do you have a bottle already as they need a deposit. 15kg at a minimum to make it cheaper, but condensation will be an issue especially if burning inside without an exhaust.

 

Did use a torpedo one when fitting a boiler years back, surprisingly thirsty as it ate a full 15kg over about 6 hours heating a garage without doors.

Edited December 6, 2023 by GarethM

[eggsarascal]

1 hour ago, Mark Bolam said:

Any thoughts on propane heaters appreciated as well, I’m not tied to (red) diesel.

 

We’re only looking at a few hours a week in the winter.

Forget gas, mega thirsty. When I was heating my box with It I’d get through a 47kg bottle about every 10 days in the winter,

[coppice cutter]

1 hour ago, Mark Bolam said:

Any thoughts on propane heaters appreciated as well, I’m not tied to (red) diesel.

 

We’re only looking at a few hours a week in the winter.

In my experience bottled gas worked out a heck of a lot dearer than red, although if you were buying red by five gallon drum or similar it would probably push the price up.

 

I'd say indirect diesel is the way to go, you waste a bit of heat out the flue but there's no fumes, and if it's for intermittent use loosing a bit of efficiency won't matter much.

 

I picked up a 'portable' 250,000 BTU s/h heater on ebay a few years ago off a plant nursery in the south of England somewhere. It sits for months on end and does nothing, but if I'm having a workshop day and it's cold a flick of the switch and the place is warm in less than ten minutes no matter what the weather outside.

 

The motor burnt out a few years ago  but 100 quid rewound it, oil pump is driven off the same shaft as the fan directly from the motor and looks easily replaceable if needs be. I suspect the thing will outlive me if required!

[Mark Bolam]

Bollocks to propane then!

[Mark Bolam]

18 hours ago, GarethM said:

Get yourself a 5kw vevor diesel heater.

Mine is exhausted through a brick wall, for less than £100 on eBay.

 

I should say as long as your running on red it's cheaper than electric.

 

I think this is looking favourite, vented to the outside with a pipe through the brickwork.

[GarethM]

That's pretty much what I did, fitted a longer exhaust just so I could get it though a 19" thick wall.

 

I start it up and leave it on the lowest tick over, running all day so around 1kw but could ramp it up if I was feeling flush.