Failed CS38 - Looking for advice.

[Jayouz]

Hello, well as the title says I failed my CS38 couple of really stupid mistakes that are easy fixes but on the feedback the assessor advised that he wasn't happy with how long it took me to setup my anchor points and that I should've gone higher, Which I agree with.

 

The issue is I couldn't figure out how to get higher! I couldn't really go any higher on my current points and I wasn't able to throw the rope high enough to get up to the next branch, I was thinking of trying a throwbag next time but I was wondering if anyone has any hints and tips that might help? 

 

Any help appreciated 🙃

Edited March 21, 2023 by Jayouz

[AHPP]

Pole and hook. As long as you can be bothered to carry. Mine’s collapsible, 4-12’. Post the rope above you. 

[Jayouz]

17 minutes ago, AHPP said:

Pole and hook. As long as you can be bothered to carry. Mine’s collapsible, 4-12’. Post the rope above you. 

Nice idea, I'll look into that one!

[Dan Maynard]

As I've been doing it longer I find my throws get luckier (to paraphrase a famous saying)

 

How are you throwing the rope? If it needs more height or a bit of punch for twigs then I would quite often build the end into a knot, looking on the internet I saw a lot of heaving line knots but best not to put the rope through the end loop before wrapping as then if it hangs up you can pull and yank to undo and retrieve. This seems right

https://images.app.goo.gl/wjPLZRzN1PyXLuXG7

 

[Tommy_B]

3 hours ago, Jayouz said:

Hello, well as the title says I failed my CS38 couple of really stupid mistakes that are easy fixes but on the feedback the assessor advised that he wasn't happy with how long it took me to setup my anchor points and that I should've gone higher, Which I agree with.

 

The issue is I couldn't figure out how to get higher! I couldn't really go any higher on my current points and I wasn't able to throw the rope high enough to get up to the next branch, I was thinking of trying a throwbag next time but I was wondering if anyone has any hints and tips that might help? 

 

Any help appreciated 🙃

How long did it take you to set your anchor points?

 

[Vedhoggar]

Try what AHP suggests, I find about 3.5m (12ft) most useful length, plus a Karabiner with a bit of weight to it. 

[Jayouz]

26 minutes ago, Tommy_B said:

How long did it take you to set your anchor points?

 

By the time I'd done my limb walk it was about 4 hours, so far too long, just frustrating that it just came down to not being able to get the rope to where I needed it which is why I want to try and prepare to help with my shortcomings for next time.

[Jayouz]

21 minutes ago, Vedhoggar said:

Try what AHP suggests, I find about 3.5m (12ft) most useful length, plus a Karabiner with a bit of weight to it. 

I was using one until I got asked not to as it was hire kit, after that I was really stuck 😅

[Gordon S]

3 hours ago, Jayouz said:

Hello, well as the title says I failed my CS38 couple of really stupid mistakes that are easy fixes but on the feedback the assessor advised that he wasn't happy with how long it took me to setup my anchor points and that I should've gone higher, Which I agree with.

 

The issue is I couldn't figure out how to get higher! I couldn't really go any higher on my current points and I wasn't able to throw the rope high enough to get up to the next branch, I was thinking of trying a throwbag next time but I was wondering if anyone has any hints and tips that might help? 

 

Any help appreciated 🙃

 

Hi, sorry to hear you had a hard time, it will all get easier, there is a lot to try and remember and it can be a mind f**K. When I started, I spent time at a local Walnut tree just practicing throwing rope. Like Dan said the more you practice the luckier you get.

Also once you are in the tree and are trying to throw to a higher branch if find it easier if you push off the trunk with your feet so your torso is more horizontal, you will then have more room to get a better angle and free you arm to throw. Beginners have a tendency to dangle next to the stem and try some weird over the head throw. 

[Jayouz]

1 minute ago, Gordon S said:

 

Hi, sorry to hear you had a hard time, it will all get easier, there is a lot to try and remember and it can be a mind f**K. When I started, I spent time at a local Walnut tree just practicing throwing rope. Like Dan said the more you practice the luckier you get.

Also once you are in the tree and are trying to throw to a higher branch if find it easier if you push off the trunk with your feet so your torso is more horizontal, you will then have more room to get a better angle and free you arm to throw. Beginners have a tendency to dangle next to the stem and try some weird over the head throw. 

I tried that, sometimes I got the height but no forward momentum, other times it went forward but not up, I'm just not great at throwing a rope and even worse when I can't use the rest of my body to help! 😂