Ambulance strike

[Kimosabi]

1 minute ago, pleasant said:

Yes, but that is the same in all walks of life, not just the NHS, but they seem to think theirs is a unique issue which it isnt. Give those at the bottom a pay rise....justified or not, then quite rightly those higher skilled above will want a re set of the differential and so it goes on up the ladder. And at the end of it all the ones at the bottom are actually no better off because everything has increaed

Exactly my point 

[pleasant]

2 minutes ago, Kimosabi said:

Exactly my point 

The only way out if you are on the bottom rung and you want to earn more is to improve your qualifications to go up a pay grade or leave, but at the end of the day, a manual job with no qualifications is going to pay roughly the same across the board anyway....but without a lot of the benefits of working for the nhs

[Pete Mctree]

I mentioned this on another thread. I completely believe that if an individual works hard for 40 hours a week they should be paid enough to feed, cloth and house themselves and have a life. In this context a paramedic is a degree trainer practitioner, so If they cannot, then it is not there fault.

[difflock]

"have a life"

hmmmm?

[GarethM]

Problem is for nurses the basic requirement is a degree as a minimum, which is stupid.

 

That was about 10 years ago, no degree no training. They can't even employ ex military nurses as they don't hold a recognizable qualification.

[pleasant]

22 minutes ago, GarethM said:

Problem is for nurses the basic requirement is a degree as a minimum, which is stupid.

 

That was about 10 years ago, no degree no training. They can't even employ ex military nurses as they don't hold a recognizable qualification.

You can blame bliar for that. His policy was to get everyone into university....overnight the value of all but the highest academic degrees were devalued to the point everyone of even mediocre intelligence were getting a degree in media, arts etc. That was when companies looking for the best to recruit stopped looking fior one degree, but two....or only considering candidates with the top half dozen academic degrees. We joked at the time we would be looking for a cleaner with a degree before they even got an interview. Now they realise that, and are looking at going back to apprenticeships and professional qualifications....gone full circle.

[GarethM]

Yeap, tony and his double school standards. Let's create a nation of media study graduates!

[Mike Dempsey]

2 hours ago, Kimosabi said:

Should ambulance staff be allowed to go on strike considering the risk to people's lives 

I cant actually believe someone is asking this question!

[Kimosabi]

3 minutes ago, Mike Dempsey said:

I cant actually believe someone is asking this question!

Why not?

[pleasant]

3 minutes ago, Mike Dempsey said:

I cant actually believe someone is asking this question!

Your statement can be taken either way in the context of the question.