STHIL MSA 220 T

[HMW]

Evening all,

 

Im considering purchasing the new sthil msa 220 t, I haven't had any hands on with one however from what i've seen and read they are meant to be the dogs Bol**ks, has anyone had much use out of one and could confirm and advise ? 

Many thanks 

H 

[AHPP]

They feel better in the hand than a 160t and if they cut the same as a 220 backhandle, they'll be great. I've not looked into the switches/modes though. That could be a big drawback.

[gand]

Had a quick go with one. Seems like it's got a good bit of torque. Probably slightly heavier than a 201t. It felt more comfortable in hand than the T540iXP, but that may be because I'm more use to Stihl top handles than Husqvarna. 

[andy ellis]

great saw highly recommend

[HMW]

cheers for the feedback lads !

 

[AHPP]

On 20/09/2022 at 20:59, AHPP said:

They feel better in the hand than a 160t and if they cut the same as a 220 backhandle, they'll be great. I've not looked into the switches/modes though. That could be a big drawback.

 

Had a good talk through the switching with a Stihl rep at the APF and then had a go with one in a tree the other day. It's a dangerous piece of shit. The switching absolutely ruins it. Turns itself off when you don't want it off, encourages you to accidentally turn it on when you do want it off, discourages good chain brake discipline. Will cause accidents through mistake and through frustration. The more serious accidents will be on time sensitive cuts, chasing hinges, waiting for wind etc. The saw will prevent people making the cut at the correct time and then they'll panic, mash the button and charge at the cut too late or too far. Will also increase fatigue, handling the thing for longer than necessary.

 

Infantilising professionals will not make them safer or more productive. Nor will it help less experienced users. It'll imbue them with a lack of confidence in their tools and take their minds off the job.

 

I cannot emphasise enough how utterly shit the 220t is. I'm spending tomorrow brushing up on my German and then I'm going to shout at someone from Stihl on Monday. A flagship model and an opportunity to put Stihl at the top of the tree for battery saws. Absolutely squandered. Cretins.

 

Edited October 8, 2022 by AHPP

[dumper]

4 minutes ago, AHPP said:

 

Had a good talk through the switching with a Stihl rep at the APF and then had a go with one in a tree the other day. It's a dangerous piece of shit. The switching absolutely ruins it. Turns itself off when you don't want it off, encourages you to accidentally turn it on when you do want it off, discourages good chain brake discipline. Will cause accidents through mistake and through frustration. The more serious accidents will be on time sensitive cuts, chasing hinges, waiting for wind etc. People will either fail to make the cut at the correct time or will panic, mash the button and then charge at the cut too late or too far. Will also increase fatigue, handling the thing for longer than necessary.

 

Attempting to infantilise professionals will not make them safer or more productive. Nor will it help less experienced users. It'll imbue them with a lack of confidence in their tools and take their minds off the job.

 

I cannot emphasize enough how utterly shit the 220t is. I'm spending tomorrow brushing up on my German and then I'm going to shout at someone from Stihl on Monday. A flagship model and an opportunity to put Stihl at the top of the tree for battery saws. Absolutely squandered. Cretins.

 

You don’t like it ?

[carlos]

thats a shame about the switch as they sounded good.

we have a new stihl battery pole saw and that has a weird double dead mans but no on off switch, my mate managed to activate the chain whilst pulling in out of some branches by the head end!!!

[Stubby]

9 hours ago, AHPP said:

 

Had a good talk through the switching with a Stihl rep at the APF and then had a go with one in a tree the other day. It's a dangerous piece of shit. The switching absolutely ruins it. Turns itself off when you don't want it off, encourages you to accidentally turn it on when you do want it off, discourages good chain brake discipline. Will cause accidents through mistake and through frustration. The more serious accidents will be on time sensitive cuts, chasing hinges, waiting for wind etc. The saw will prevent people making the cut at the correct time and then they'll panic, mash the button and charge at the cut too late or too far. Will also increase fatigue, handling the thing for longer than necessary.

 

Infantilising professionals will not make them safer or more productive. Nor will it help less experienced users. It'll imbue them with a lack of confidence in their tools and take their minds off the job.

 

I cannot emphasise enough how utterly shit the 220t is. I'm spending tomorrow brushing up on my German and then I'm going to shout at someone from Stihl on Monday. A flagship model and an opportunity to put Stihl at the top of the tree for battery saws. Absolutely squandered. Cretins.

 

Good , well thought out informative post .

[Mr. Squirrel]

What’s the deal with the switches? Are they the same as the 160t, or even worse?