The Green Agenda

[Woodworks]

1 hour ago, Steven P said:

 

 

Why should the west bother with it all when the Chinese are (reportedly) doing nothing

 

First off because it's the right thing to do!

 

Secondly they are the biggest investors in renewables on the planet.

 

Also it easy to be clean when we dont make anything like the UK who then import most of our goods from China  

Edited April 1, 2022 by Woodworks

[Richard 1234]

1 hour ago, Woodworks said:

First off because it's the right thing to do!

 

Secondly they are biggest investors in renewables on the planet.

 

Also it easy to be clean when we dont make anything like the UK who then import most of our goods from China  

Who is it the right thing to do for? Not us that’s a fact. Not unless we build 25 big nuclear reactors. Yes we can have wind and solar but nuclear has the advantage that it always works.

to add to that why don’t we build massive solar plants on say the Sahara?

it would conceivably power Africa Europe the world? I’ve no idea how much power it would create never mind all the employment and money going into Africa to build and sell the energy 

Edited April 1, 2022 by Richard 1234

[Woodworks]

2 minutes ago, Richard 1234 said:

Who is it the right thing to do for? Not us that’s a fact. Not unless we build 25 big nuclear reactors. Yes we can have wind and solar but nuclear has the advantage that it always works.

So we dont bother because it inconveniences us now? Yes sod all future generations and just please ourselves now.

 

Its how we got in this mess and why we probably wont get out of it anytime soon as we are such a selfish shortsighted species. 

[openspaceman]

8 minutes ago, Richard 1234 said:

to add to that why don’t we build massive solar plants on say the Sahara?

it would require billions of dollars investment and no one is going to loan that to a government that  might renege on the deal

[Mark Bolam]

1 hour ago, Haironyourchest said:

Nobody in the rest of the world gives a toss about our example. It's a hoax always was. Figure it out now or later, eventually.

 

It was always about western governments taking control of the entire energy sector and by extension the economy and society.

It’s truly sad mate, but I sort of agree with you.

It’s like me turning the heating down a couple of notches and putting an extra jumper on while watching my 476 Chinese neighbours burning tyres.

 

Like this electric car bollocks, just transferring the filth and rape of the planet to a different continent.

 

How many of these ‘green’ twats would buy one if they had to store the used batteries on their own property?

[Richard 1234]

1 minute ago, Woodworks said:

So we dont bother because it inconveniences us now? Yes sod all future generations and just please ourselves now.

 

Its how we got in this mess and why we probably wont get out of it anytime soon as we are such a selfish shortsighted species. 

What we do here in the UK won’t make any difference other than make us feel better. I agree it needs to be done but the timeframe is too short and we need The whole world to do it. I’m also not convinced it would change much anyway. But it would be worth a try if it was worldwide

[Woodworks]

19 minutes ago, Richard 1234 said:

What we do here in the UK won’t make any difference other than make us feel better. I agree it needs to be done but the timeframe is too short and we need The whole world to do it. I’m also not convinced it would change much anyway. But it would be worth a try if it was worldwide

Let's look at this from another angle and forget any green agenda for a moment.

 

Fossil fuels are finite. When they are gone they are gone. Oil is an amazing resource that we make loads of things from so let's not burn it when we dont need to. We have near limitless renewables available to us in sun, wind, tidal etc so let's use them where we can and save the oil for the things we really need it for. 

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Edited April 1, 2022 by Woodworks

[openspaceman]

33 minutes ago, Woodworks said:

Let's look at this from another angle and forget any green agenda for a moment.

and another angle; how much have you spent on electricity this last week, I spent £1.40.

[Mark Bolam]

Yes, I’ve been cut off as well.

[sime42]

Let's look at this from another angle and forget any green agenda for a moment.
 
Fossil fuels are finite. When they are gone they are gone. Oil is an amazing resource that we make loads of things from so let's not burn it when we dont need to. We have near limitless renewables available to us in sun, wind, tidal etc so let's use them where we can and save the oil for the things we really need it for. 

Products made from petroleum | Ranken Energy Corporation

WWW.RANKEN-ENERGY.COM  

Yet another angle is that we make loads of not so useful things from oil. They quickly break or become obsolete and then end up being burnt anyway, or dumped in the ground or sea to pollute the environment for countless generations to come. (Or in our case, in the UK; we pay other countries like China to make the crap. So we can then say "it's not us governor")