Russia Invades ukraine

[Doug Tait]

Pooootin, such a great guy. I called him, I said Vlad, you know I call him Vlad, he calls me Donald, such a great guy. I said Vlad the people are dying, millions of them are dying, we have to stop with the people dying, so bad. So we made a deal, great deal, really great deal and now nobody is dying. People tell me Donald, it's so great nobody is dying, and they're happy and we're happy, so easy and nobody is dying, such a great guy.

[monkeybusiness]

He would (will?!) stop the war by cutting off the funding, and forcing Ukraine to accept the current front line as the new boundary. Clearly this is not something he can do if not president. 

[Ty Korrigan]

So, the West sues for peace, Ukraine is divided, new lines are drawn and Russia rebuilds it's forces.

Then a few years into the future it makes moves on the Baltic states, Romania, Finland and beyond.

 We are stuck between a rock and a hard place.

 

 

 

[monkeybusiness]

4 hours ago, Ty Korrigan said:

So, the West sues for peace, Ukraine is divided, new lines are drawn and Russia rebuilds it's forces.

Then a few years into the future it makes moves on the Baltic states, Romania, Finland and beyond.

 We are stuck between a rock and a hard place.

 

 

 

I don’t think Putin would have invaded Ukraine with Trump (or someone similarly strong/unpredictable) at the helm. He knew that NATO/Europe/the US wouldn’t get involved directly (they have supplied arms for defence but only recently sent anything that can reach into Russia as a form of attack) so he’s been able to essentially do as he pleases, as there hasn’t been any western leadership with an ounce of backbone to stand up to him. 
I personally think we need Trump to be the leader Russia/China/North Korea have in the back of their minds when considering their next moves. 
 

[peds]

13 minutes ago, monkeybusiness said:

I don’t think Putin would have invaded Ukraine with Trump (or someone similarly strong/unpredictable) at the helm. 
 

 

Putin invaded Ukraine in 2014.

[monkeybusiness]

3 minutes ago, peds said:

 

Putin invaded Ukraine in 2014.

I’m not sure that Trump was on the job then either tbh. Defo not his fault that time either 😂😂😂

[peds]

Yeah you're right, he probably would have been fine with just Crimea. Definitely would have left it at that 👍

 

Oh, and Donetsk. Just those.

 

 

Maaaaybe Luhansk. DEFINITELY leave it at that. That would have scratched his itch just fine. Yeah. 

[Mesterh]

2 hours ago, monkeybusiness said:

I don’t think Putin would have invaded Ukraine with Trump (or someone similarly strong/unpredictable) at the helm. He knew that NATO/Europe/the US wouldn’t get involved directly (they have supplied arms for defence but only recently sent anything that can reach into Russia as a form of attack) so he’s been able to essentially do as he pleases, as there hasn’t been any western leadership with an ounce of backbone to stand up to him. 
I personally think we need Trump to be the leader Russia/China/North Korea have in the back of their minds when considering their next moves. 
 

IMO I dont think it matters whos in charge, Putin can more or less do what he wants. Even if he dropped a nuke on London theres no way NATO and the US are going to hit Russia with a volley of nukes. 

[peds]

Jesus, while we've been distracted by Trump's failing mental health and ham shouting at brown people, Ukraine has made a land grab into Russia...

 

 

350km² taken into Kursk, with no signs of anything slowing down yet...

It's probably not going to hold out long-term, but it has great potential for negotiations and propaganda. 

Lot of Russian soldiers surrendering... this is great news.

Edited August 8, 2024 by peds

[Stubby]

2 hours ago, peds said:

Jesus, while we've been distracted by Trump's failing mental health and ham shouting at brown people, Ukraine has made a land grab into Russia...

 

 

350km² taken into Kursk, with no signs of anything slowing down yet...

It's probably not going to hold out long-term, but it has great potential for negotiations and propaganda. 

Lot of Russian soldiers surrendering... this is great news.

I follow it daily . The explanation from Ukraine a few days ago was to try and pull some of the Russians from the main front to ease pressure there . Russia is saying they are after the nearby power power station .