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2 minutes ago, Steven P said:

On both sides the ones being shot at don't care for the morals. They just wish that they are not being shot at any more, thanks. However they are not the ones who can broker a peace deal - and one that will last. So in todays discussion about who, why and when politics will stop the killing they are an irrelevance really.

 

I think for the US involvement the choice is:

"Roll over and accept the aggressor, his war crimes"

or

"Try to do the right thing"

 

I think we call all see that Trump is firmly in the camp of rolling over, let Putin tickle his tummy and say "what a good boy". I think this is a step change from Biden who was looking at the 2nd option.

 

The rest of the world also appear to be siding on the do the right thing. Apart from Putin, his allies and puppets of course.

 

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Not sure if Biden thinking he is Irish, American or even Martian has any bearing on his morals.

Roll over my arse, Biden didn't know how to put on a pair or trousers let alone negotiate.

 

You're trump derangement syndrome is flaring up 

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So let's brass track it.

 

You want us to keep giving Ukraine a blank cheque for effectively forever.

 

Putin will not just pack up and go home, even with your European leaders help, they are out gunned and out matched by the Russians.

 

So Mr president Steven P what you going to do!.

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6 minutes ago, GarethM said:

Roll over my arse, Biden didn't know how to put on a pair or trousers let alone negotiate.

 

You're trump derangement syndrome is flaring up 

 

Ahh you are going back to type and your argument "this guy is bad, but that guy is more badr" when the more bad guy is also an irrelevance in the current discussion. It isn't a discussion that works really.

 

For all his Faults, whether he can put on a pair of trousers or not, Biden didn't phone Putin up and ask "What do you want to stop the war? No concessions? sure, we can do that"

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Still not hearing any actual solutions Mr president ped or Steven.

 

Decide who is deputy between yourselves, just as long as you come to a solution that doesn't involve I dunno boot's on the ground.

 

Oh and I'll threaten this and that, erm who's going to do the big stick waving.

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