Russia Invades ukraine

[Johnsond]

1 hour ago, Mark J said:

Which bit? Given you posted the daft link up from Linked In. 

Try the bit about army housing and you posted the guys views not me 

So defence is a waste of money is it ??

explain what we would do without adequate defence capability please in the event of an attack 🤷‍♂️

Dont say it will never happen 😌look to Ukraine 

[Yournamehere]

6 hours ago, Johnsond said:

Try the bit about army housing and you posted the guys views not me 

So defence is a waste of money is it ??

explain what we would do without adequate defence capability please in the event of an attack 🤷‍♂️

Dont say it will never happen 😌look to Ukraine 

We strike a deal?

 

 

[Stubby]

Did I hear this correctly ? Donald Trump has accused Ukraine of starting the war ???  I don't get it .

[peds]

32 minutes ago, Stubby said:

Did I hear this correctly ? Donald Trump has accused Ukraine of starting the war ???  I don't get it .

 

You heard it correctly, he's getting his talking points straight from the Kremlin. Trump is still a Russian asset, the same as he has been for decades. 

The only thing you need to appreciate to get it is just how monumentally stupid everyone who voted for him is.

[sime42]

[sime42]

I completely get why Trump would blame Ukraine, it was to be expected. What I don't get is why a few people still think he's the best thing since sliced bread. Time to wake up, shake up!

[GarethM]

How about actually reading the article, instead of just trump bashing at a snippet.

 

"Well, you’ve been there for three years, you should have ended it three years. You should have never started it, you could have made a deal.”

 

The whole thing has been running on longer than WW1/2/Vietnam, isn't it now almost aslong as Afghan?.

 

Any longer and it'll turn into the 100 years war, which were all paying to prop up

Edited Wednesday at 11:06 by GarethM

[Steven P]

Go on then, how? 

 

So if I read this right (and I did read the article), Trumps idea is that The Ukraine - in the middle of an invasion, an act of aggression against it - wanted them to phone up Russia "you're invading our country, feck off" and a deal is done. I am not sure how such a deal is possible without them rolling over and conceding land losses and setting a precedence for future invasions and land grabs. 

 

So... what would this deal be? How would it work to see Russia withdrawing and returning all the territory grabbed back to their rightful owner?

[GarethM]

4 minutes ago, Steven P said:

Go on then, how? 

 

So if I read this right (and I did read the article), Trumps idea is that The Ukraine - in the middle of an invasion, an act of aggression against it - wanted them to phone up Russia "you're invading our country, feck off" and a deal is done. I am not sure how such a deal is possible without them rolling over and conceding land losses and setting a precedence for future invasions and land grabs. 

 

So... what would this deal be? How would it work to see Russia withdrawing and returning all the territory grabbed back to their rightful owner?

Why not define war Vs an occupation.

 

Let's use Afghanistan as a recent benchmark for you. We went to war and gave it back, within days it returned to pretty much the same condition as before, after what 15-20 years of occupation?.

[tree-fancier123]

14 hours ago, Mark J said:

The mind boggles. That's just shy of 3k per person in the UK. 

 

11 hours ago, Johnsond said:

Try the bit about army housing and you posted the guys views not me 

So defence is a waste of money is it ??

explain what we would do without adequate defence capability please in the event of an attack 🤷‍♂️

Dont say it will never happen 😌look to Ukraine 

so if the £20 billion proposed is £3000 per UK resident and several times that £20 billion have already been spent on Ukraine and they are still retreating in the east, then we have no hope of fighting a war, only of putting down a civil war.

If they gave me the purse strings I would say enough already and tell Russia China, India and US that we are very afraid of being defeated by a bigger concern in the future, so we are putting the country up for auction - if you can't beat them join them.

If we fell out with any of the above countries, or even Germany, there is no way we are winning alone.

Regarding hypersonic nuclear funding - I'd rather learn to speak american, hindi, mandarin or russian than push a nuclear posturing to its logical conclusion