29th Nov- £350/day rate - East London

[Rich Rule]

That’s the point, 400 a day isn’t sustainable.

 

 

[topchippyles]

  On 16/11/2021 at 17:09, eggsarascal said:

How often do you need to work on £400/day, two weeks that is being offered is £4K! I would take the next month or so off unless someone called me.

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[eggsarascal]

  On 16/11/2021 at 17:36, Rich Rule said:

That’s the point, 400 a day isn’t sustainable.

 

 

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It's being paid on a basis daily in lots of trades.

 

'£600 a day is barely going to get lads through the gate': What the 'insane' demand for brickies and materials means for Manchester's building boom - Manchester Evening News

WWW.MANCHESTEREVENINGNEWS.CO.UK

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[Rich Rule]

We are not talking “in lots of trade though” are we?
 

I don’t doubt it in many trades.

 

BUT.
 

Not on trees though, on a daily basis is it?  We have established that many times over the years and you keep bringing the issue back to the table.

 

If you think it is doable on the daily? Then, start a tree company and see how long it will last paying people that kind of money.

[trigger_andy]

  On 16/11/2021 at 18:17, eggsarascal said:

It's being paid on a basis daily in lots of trades.
 
https://arbtalk.co.uk/assets/set_resources_21/6554b6be8c0d829a8bf63ae0c82cf121_link.png' alt='6554b6be8c0d829a8bf63ae0c82cf121_link.png'> '£600 a day is barely going to get lads through the gate': What the 'insane' demand for brickies and materials means for Manchester's building boom - Manchester Evening News WWW.MANCHESTEREVENINGNEWS.CO.UK

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The city centre is set for another slew of new residential towers, office revamps and venues, but the construction...  

The big difference is real trades have apprenticeships and recognised qualifications that need Uni or at least collage time. You’re not gonna get a job as a Sparkie or a Plumber unless you’re time served. Anyone with a Saw can get into Arb. Do a few weeks courses and you’re suddenly qualified. As such there will always be a surplus of blokes kicking about wanting work. Supply and demand. There seems to be way more supply than there is demand. Keeps the rates at near enough minimum wage for most.

[scraggs]

  On 16/11/2021 at 18:17, eggsarascal said:

It's being paid on a basis daily in lots of trades.

 

'£600 a day is barely going to get lads through the gate': What the 'insane' demand for brickies and materials means for Manchester's building boom - Manchester Evening News

WWW.MANCHESTEREVENINGNEWS.CO.UK

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The city centre is set for another slew of new residential towers, office revamps and venues, but the construction...

 

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One of our customers has been asked to go back on the trowel at £400 a day for as long as they can keep selling houses.

[eggsarascal]

  On 16/11/2021 at 18:44, trigger_andy said:

 

The big difference is real trades have apprenticeships and recognised qualifications that need Uni or at least collage time. You’re not gonna get a job as a Sparkie or a Plumber unless you’re time served. Anyone with a Saw can get into Arb. Do a few weeks courses and you’re suddenly qualified. As such there will always be a surplus of blokes kicking about wanting work. Supply and demand. There seems to be way more supply than there is demand. Keeps the rates at near enough minimum wage for most.

 

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Correct about sparks and gas engineers but most of the other trades I know learnt on the job, Brickie's, joiners, plasterers. Very few of them saw uni or college.

[trigger_andy]

  On 16/11/2021 at 18:55, eggsarascal said:

Correct about sparks and gas engineers but most of the other trades I know learnt on the job, Brickie's, joiners, plasterers. Very few of them saw uni or college.

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Learn on the job seems to be in the way out. At least here in Scotland. All have at least Collage time built into their “modern” apprenticeship. But before this you still had to be “time served”. That’s normally a four year apprenticeship then you get recognised papers. 

[Joe Newton]

  On 16/11/2021 at 18:44, trigger_andy said:

 

The big difference is real trades have apprenticeships and recognised qualifications that need Uni or at least collage time. You’re not gonna get a job as a Sparkie or a Plumber unless you’re time served. Anyone with a Saw can get into Arb. Do a few weeks courses and you’re suddenly qualified. As such there will always be a surplus of blokes kicking about wanting work. Supply and demand. There seems to be way more supply than there is demand. Keeps the rates at near enough minimum wage for most.

 

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Not for climbers. Demand way outstrips supply at the moment. Ask any company owner how easy it is to find a decent climber or even subby. 

[trigger_andy]

  On 16/11/2021 at 19:00, Joe Newton said:

Not for climbers. Demand way outstrips supply at the moment. Ask any company owner how easy it is to find a decent climber or even subby. 

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My old man was a climber. Supposedly quite a good one and always in demand. 
 

But we’re talking about “chainsaw operators” here though.