Back up line

[Treetom15]

4 hours ago, Joe Newton said:

I'm using a bespoke setup, only one of its kind that I know of.

 

Never gets in the way, never tangles and its always there.

 

Oh and it's invisible too. 

Is that the new teufelberger Invisiline rope? Lovely bit of kit 

[Andrew McEwan]

Boring answer...using same srt petzl rig setup as normal plus a 25m 11.5mm line with a spider jack ddrt, which self tends a bit too well to climb on (yes I know), but good for a fairly painless second system, and can easily control both with one hand on the way down and out, plus short lanyard.

[Cuttup]

Sorry to be so boring....😉

 

I take it most of you lads are self climbers then and not employing climbers or have you just said sod it, and decided to press on with double MEWPS and invisible lines instead?

 

It does seem like  climbing on 2 systems is a massive chew. I've never known anyone to cut through their mainline or for their main anchor to fail, but I dare say it happens. 

 

PS I'm not the HSE in-cognito, you're fantastical lines are safe with me whether they exist or not….

[htb]

Seen a few mainlines cut through normally on congested cypress etc, but that's what your lanyard is for....

[Treetom15]

3 hours ago, Cuttup said:

Sorry to be so boring....😉

 

I take it most of you lads are self climbers then and not employing climbers or have you just said sod it, and decided to press on with double MEWPS and invisible lines instead?

 

It does seem like  climbing on 2 systems is a massive chew. I've never known anyone to cut through their mainline or for their main anchor to fail, but I dare say it happens. 

 

PS I'm not the HSE in-cognito, you're fantastical lines are safe with me whether they exist or not….

To be fair mate, I’m employed by a company who “insist” on using 2 rope system, however it’s not something that’s really been enforced…..In all honestly I have used 2 ropes on the odd occasion, but it’s usually just the tail of my rope with a prussik-usually when I’m anchored SRT in an adjacent tree and need something for changeovers. If you need a second line purely for access then maybe question what you have anchored into…..

[TTownsend]

So I’ve recently moved firm and the new firm want you climbing on 2 lines.

Definitely one of them the more you do it the more efficient you get with it. The Camp Gyro triple attachment is a must in my eyes and keeps your bridge nice a tidy.

At the moment I’ve found climbing with 1 SRT line and 1 DRT line the best for me. I like having that mechanical advantage on my DRT line for those small adjustments with work positioning.

I’m by no means a HS bible basher and 2 rope working has been a hassle but it is what it is unfortunately and there will be a time when it’s the norm everyone climbing on 2 lines so I’d rather get ahead of the crowd as I know most still only use 1.

[AHPP]

17 minutes ago, TTownsend said:

Definitely one of them the more you do it the more efficient you get with it. The Camp Gyro triple attachment is a must in my eyes and keeps your bridge nice a tidy.

CAREFUL! Paddy will surface like an activated sleeper agent.

 

Good tip on the 1xDRT, 1xSRT btw. That's what I usually do when I double system.

[Rob Thompson]

Hate to be the odd one out, but... I find a second system handy here and there.

When on moving rope, I'd use the other end now and then for more comfortable work positions. So now, when I'm up a tree on stationary rope, I'll often have my hitchclimber set up on the bridge too. Not always. And especially not the last tree at 15:30 on any day with a y in it !

Today I had twin stationary set ups on the go while deadwooding cedars, it helped more than it hindered. I was only ever really using one, but the other was always there, and it was super handy for bypassing limbs.

Edited November 13, 2021 by Rob Thompson
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[Mark Bolam]

I wouldn’t ever slate 2-rope working when it’s comfier, faster, safer, or more appropriate on some jobs.

 

I will say it’s a total crock of shit on a lot of jobs, though, and I will simply never use it on those.

Single stem connies?

Chogging a pole?

 

Where are your 2 separate anchors?

 

It’s unnecessary clutter.

 

Unnecessary clutter is dangerous. 

[Rob Thompson]

On 14/11/2021 at 00:33, Mark Bolam said:

I wouldn’t ever slate 2-rope working when it’s comfier, faster, safer, or more appropriate on some jobs.

 

I will say it’s a total crock of shit on a lot of jobs, though, and I will simply never use it on those.

Single stem connies?

Chogging a pole?

 

Where are your 2 separate anchors?

 

It’s unnecessary clutter.

 

Unnecessary clutter is dangerous. 

100%, nail on the head.

If it doesn't help you, it's dangerous.