Can chainsaws be more safe?

[spudulike]

14 hours ago, Mike Hill said:

Heated handles as an option on every saw would make them safer to use. 

I think our Australian comrades would disagree

[AA Teccie (Paul)]

On 31/10/2021 at 21:32, Bolt said:

The little sticker is all about compliance…. It has nothing to do with safety.

 If I have a non-functional off switch, the saw is less safe.

 If I have a non functioning chain brake, the saw is less safe.

 If I have a missing chain catcher, the saw is less safe.  

A saw with a busted throttle interlatch is less safe,

But a saw with a missing little sticker is no more or less safe than a saw with a litttle sticker.  

Surely you can see the difference?

I frequently see those "less safe" features on site, even on AC assessments, AND the associated PUWER sheet all ticked and shiny    

The argument with the 'sticker' being about safety is for those who wouldn't wear hearing / eye protection without the prompt perhaps, i.e. not professional users who are trained and qualified (and hopefully competent.) 

 

The greatest chainsaw safety feature is the 'COMPETENT' operator...advancing technology can/will help, but we ignore that at our peril.

 

TTFN

Paul 

[Rich Rule]

1 hour ago, spudulike said:

I know both of you personally, got no issues with either of you or either of your experience in different parts of the same industry so please move on as there is already too much aggression and bad feeling on this site.

Save it for the few that have earnt it

Steve, fair enough.

 

BUT, I am not too keen on assumptions being made about me from someone who has never met me (to my knowledge) from someone who is reluctant to even tell us who he is or his experience.

 

Someone,  who also doesn’t recognise a tongue in cheek comment and then when asked politely to explain he comes back with snarky comments, on more than one occasion.

 

I tried politely to ask but it must have fallen on deaf ears, or for some reason refuses to respond.

 

Simple as that, as you know, I am a pretty straight forward, no nonsense kind of guy who like a laugh.

 

Unfortunately, it is lost on some people as it doesn’t transcend high enough to get to them on their high horse.

 

 

[Rich Rule]

It is what is is.  Without a lot of the crap users whose lack of maintenance leaves a lot to be desired… less saws would break and there would be less to repairs for the workshop guys.

 

It is like a wood cutter moaning about trees all the time, oh, I wish they wouldn’t grow, I wish they didn’t need removing, I wish they didn’t need pruning.  
 

If the above didn’t happen, there would be a lot less work for those on either side, maintenance, product design or the practical side or Arboriculture.

 

 

[adw]

I did not comment any further as I thought it best to just let it go, and not get into a heated argument, if I upset you in some way I apologise, maybe I am just a little too compassionate about chainsaws,especially Husqvarna, I have worked for Husqvarna for 44 years, service work, technical training for dealers, associated with Lantra and nptc instructors and verifiers, I am a Briggs and Stratton master technician, I with colleagues have visited operators who have been involved with one of our products, I hope goes some way to answering your question.

[openspaceman]

24 minutes ago, Rich Rule said:

Someone,  who also doesn’t recognise a tongue in cheek comment and then when asked politely to explain he comes back with snarky comments, on more than one occasion.

Please let it drop, I have had good dealings with @adw from here, I also share a bit of common history with him from 1974 when I used to deal with the firm he worked for, though I did not deal with him then but his boss. At the time the firm was the importer for Husqvarna (and my Holder tractors).

 

Adw doesn't engage in chit chat he just gives good advice, especially when prompted and his knowledge is an asset here

[openspaceman]

2 minutes ago, adw said:

I did not comment any further as I thought it best to just let it go, and not get into a heated argument, if I upset you in some way I apologise, maybe I am just a little too compassionate about chainsaws,especially Husqvarna, I have worked for Husqvarna for 44 years, service work, technical training for dealers, associated with Lantra and nptc instructors and verifiers, I am a Briggs and Stratton master technician, I with colleagues have visited operators who have been involved with one of our products, I hope goes some way to answering your question.

Beat me to it, good answer, let's move on.

[Rich Rule]

17 minutes ago, openspaceman said:

Please let it drop, I have had good dealings with @adw from here, I also share a bit of common history with him from 1974 when I used to deal with the firm he worked for, though I did not deal with him then but his boss. At the time the firm was the importer for Husqvarna (and my Holder tractors).

 

Adw doesn't engage in chit chat he just gives good advice, especially when prompted and his knowledge is an asset here

As far as I am concerned, Adw has responded and that is good enough for me.    No need for anyone else to back up their friends.  It isn’t a school yard.  
 

Although, I appreciate Steve bringing it up, as it prompted Adw to reply to my questions.
 

I asked a simple question and it has been answered, job done.
 

Thanks. 
 

 

 

[Silverhooker]

Back to the topic of making saws safer, would a sort of dead mans handle device on the front handle be a good idea to stop idiots using saws 1 handed ?? ( although I bet we've all done it). As this is what the young chap who started the thread was looking for.

Might be good for home owner type saws where there is  often a temptation to stretch out just to get that last side branch !!

Edited November 2, 2021 by Silverhooker
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[spudulike]

Stihl had a chain brake system operated by the rear handle where the normal throttle lock is usually located. The saws brake would be engaged if pressure was released from the rear handle. 

It was a bit alien but probably a reasonable safety device!