Future Firewood Demand Optimism?

[neiln]

I saw that prediction pop up on my phone...I took it with a pinch of sensational journalism salt as it was the express, plus predictions they far out are guess work.  I'm not saying it won't happen though.  The expected £4k figures for this winter are going to cause huge problems. 

 

I also finally saw an article from the stove industry alliance promoting stoves to keep homes warm in the event of black outs.  Not sure it's the best or only way to promote stoves but mainly I'm surprised I've not seen much more from the industry.

[Squaredy]

No doubt a lot of people will rely on their  wood burner more this winter.  I don’t sell firewood any more just briquettes I buy in; and demand has picked up already.

 

 Of course the whingers will just keep going the way they always have and go into debt and play the victim card.

 

I hope most people will actually manage their situation and cut back sensibly, but all I hear is how folk are going to starve or die of cold.  

[trigger_andy]

6 minutes ago, Squaredy said:

Of course the whingers will just keep going the way they always have and go into debt and play the victim card.

 

I hope most people will actually manage their situation and cut back sensibly, but all I hear is how folk are going to starve or die of cold.  

Oh oh, Eggs and the other bleeding heart lefties will be out to linch you for this one.  

[Squaredy]

6 minutes ago, trigger_andy said:

Oh oh, Eggs and the other bleeding heart lefties will be out to linch you for this one.  

I don’t see it as a political thing, but yes I know you get blasted if you ever say we need to fall back on our own resources before expecting handouts.

 

 Also what is always overlooked is that we are almost entirely in control over how much gas and electricity we use, and cheap meals are always possible.  I am feeding my whole family tonight for about £8.  Not because I am skint but because we all love sausage casserole, and it is a great way of getting us all to eat loads of veg.

 

 Some people will struggle for valid reasons I know, but 90% of people can manage ok if they really try.

[trigger_andy]

24 minutes ago, Squaredy said:

I don’t see it as a political thing, but yes I know you get blasted if you ever say we need to fall back on our own resources before expecting handouts.

 

 Also what is always overlooked is that we are almost entirely in control over how much gas and electricity we use, and cheap meals are always possible.  I am feeding my whole family tonight for about £8.  Not because I am skint but because we all love sausage casserole, and it is a great way of getting us all to eat loads of veg.

 

 Some people will struggle for valid reasons I know, but 90% of people can manage ok if they really try.

I quite agree. This issue should not be seen as a political thing yet voicing such views always seems to be considered right-wing. How dare you expect people to be responsible for their own actions.  

 

 

[Billhook]

I think that if I was short of money and desperate, I would buy an electric blanket for a chair and bed like the ones on Amazon 

Only 70 watts and probably a lot cheaper to run and buy than a heat pump

Edited August 21, 2022 by Billhook
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[drinksloe]

On 30/07/2022 at 15:25, openspaceman said:

Round here they seem to inject human waste rather than spread, not seen any pig farms locally for a long time.

 

Are u still aloud to do that down south?

 

Pretty sure it was banned up in scotland around foot & mouth time, never seen it for years now.

 

Was nver that popular althou the same few farmers always took it.#It would probably be were a lot of the technology for umbilical systems came from which are now almost the norm up here and were very rare back then.

[drinksloe]

On 30/07/2022 at 16:05, difflock said:

I think I remember a Scottish Woodlands wheeze, where they got well paid to take tonnes and tonnes and tonnes of  sewage cake or sludge away, and "utilized" it by burying in BIG DEEP trenches to fertilize the conifers that they were for planting.

Or such was the story in the local community, who, again, from recall, put a stop to this scheme.

It sounded more like a "I have a cunning plan, let's dig a hole and bury it" to me, but hey!

What do I know.

P.S. 

I do not recall how far they were drawing it, or how,  away from the County road.

 

 

 

Was a wood just up above me they done it with, we called it porticullousing? sp? like the gate thingys on castles as they dug trenches to fill with sewerage.a bit like that.

 

 

Its just up the side of the M74 i felled a few blocks above it, they were only young then but that was a few years ago now ( infact could be close on 20) drive past it often enough but never thought much about it or looked to see if trees are any better.

Must admit the blocks above it were nothing special.

 

I think they are doing something right on the border on the english side but great big deep trenches, deep enough to drive a moxy in without seeing it, 

The local balif was playing up blaming them for a sever lack of fish in the river since it started, used to be a really good/famous seat trout river

[openspaceman]

1 hour ago, drinksloe said:

 

Are u still aloud to do that down south?

Now you ask that I must say that I haven't noticed it being done locally for a while but back a while it was done on fields I walked by that were contract growing maize for a digester so not for human consumption. Those fields are the ones I got my rye from.

 

I am also aware that over time the heavy metal build up from sewage got high enough that they had to stop on some fields.

 

A local bloke cornered the market for spreading this by purchasing some big tankers (Agilators??) with massive flotation tyres and they pulled subsoilers down which the slurry was injected. He got too cocksure that he would get the contract for another five years so increased his tender. Next I saw was a standard large tractor pulling the subsoiler and a large bore plastic pipe down which the slurry was pumped out of a large static tank with a stationary diesel pump.

 

 

[openspaceman]

Also I remember a sewage utility, possibly yorkshire water, invested in the ARBRE short rotation willow crop as it was a non food crop that could lap up lots of slurry.