Larch price

[Squaredy]

30 minutes ago, arcwoodlands said:

"So, on to the most problematic thing that is said about home grown timber – especially our spruce: “It grows too fast, making it too low density, and unsuitable for construction”. This, very persistent, myth is a significant barrier to getting more home grown timber in construction, since it leads to perfectly suitable timber being rejected, and habitual over-specification. In reality, ring width, tree growth rate, density and strength are only loosely related. And because people repeat this myth a lot, we have addressed it several times before on this blog"

for more info see Edinburgh Napier Centre for Wood Science and their blog

Is it a myth?  I never mill Spruce so can't really comment, but I know UK grown Western Red Cedar is inferior to American grown.

[Big J]

16 hours ago, Squaredy said:

Is it a myth?  I never mill Spruce so can't really comment, but I know UK grown Western Red Cedar is inferior to American grown.

And WRC grown down here in the West Country can't hold a candle to the stuff I've felled and milled from the Highlands or Morayshire. 

 

It's the lack of a dormant season (mild winters) combined with continuous wind stress (causing compression and tension wood growth, as well as much larger basal diameters) combined with the lack of quality sunlight (causing more substantial branch growth) that gives us our often dodgy quality timber in the UK. 

[AHPP]

And WRC grown down here in the West Country can't hold a candle to the stuff I've felled and milled from the Highlands or Morayshire. 

 

 

I can’t wait to for you to move so we can find out how terrible Sweden suddenly is.

 

[trigger_andy]

And WRC grown down here in the West Country can't hold a candle to the stuff I've felled and milled from the Highlands or Morayshire. 
 
It's the lack of a dormant season (mild winters) combined with continuous wind stress (causing compression and tension wood growth, as well as much larger basal diameters) combined with the lack of quality sunlight (causing more substantial branch growth) that gives us our often dodgy quality timber in the UK. 

So the Highland grown Softwood is ok then?

[topchippyles]

1 hour ago, trigger_andy said:

 

So the Highland grown Softwood is ok then?

 

 

[Khriss]

One factor not mentioned is US and Sweden have larger harvesting operations than UK,  so bulk = better timber quality selection and lower price, and price seems to be the point here. K

 

(  basically shit trees DO grow in US and Sweeden, but they can be choosey with their volume output year on year) 

 

PS I know fvvk all abt milling 😉 K

[Stubby]

1 hour ago, Khriss said:

 

 

PS I know fvvk all abt milling 😉 K

But a nice cup of tea and a Victoria sponge ...well 😁 

[Khriss]

1 hour ago, Stubby said:

But a nice cup of tea and a Victoria sponge ...well 😁 

I will have you know just enjoyed nice Argentinian steak house down the road - just opened - absolutely spot on but 100 squids were involved and i dont eat calamari. K

[Big J]

6 hours ago, trigger_andy said:

 

So the Highland grown Softwood is ok then?

 

 

Morayshire just grows really good timber. Lots of sunlight in summer, cold winters and fairly well sheltered on account of the Cairngorm. 

 

6 hours ago, AHPP said:

 

I can’t wait to for you to move so we can find out how terrible Sweden suddenly is.

 

 

My comments related simply to timber quality. The growth rates of timber down here are bonkers, and unparalleled within the UK. It just doesn't translate to quality unfortunately. 

[topchippyles]

1 hour ago, Big J said:

 

Morayshire just grows really good timber. Lots of sunlight in summer, cold winters and fairly well sheltered on account of the Cairngorm. 

 

 

My comments related simply to timber quality. The growth rates of timber down here are bonkers, and unparalleled within the UK. It just doesn't translate to quality unfortunately. 

Big J i am picking through a local woods filled with larch and out of 20 felled logs i would have taken 5 and work in progress. Great lot to deal with and a charity cause but it needs to be cost effective to