Beech trees

[Mick Dempsey]

You reckon those are ordinary purple beech pollarded or fastigiate ones?

 

(dawyck purple)

Edited February 22, 2021 by Mick Dempsey

[Nykib]

Hi what would be the cost of re- pollarding these trees ? And would that be allowed with the TPO 

[openspaceman]

11 hours ago, Steve Bullman said:

Perhaps speak to the tree officer about the possibilty of managing them bi-annually, This could be done with hedgecutters, essentially creating a coupe of nicely manicured lollipop trees. I think it would probably be better for the trees than cutting them hard back every 5-10 years or so, and would create quite a nice feature in your front garden.

I agree

2 hours ago, woody paul said:

As long as they are re-pollarded back to truck and not half do like you see most of the time and they call it pollard. 

Lovely trees, I cut a beech back hard about 6 years ago now and trim re growth back by thinning every couple of years. 

My worry with that approach is that the branches are over mature and there may not be adventitious shoots  to form  new growth.  Once beech gets into middle age it doesn't coppice well, not sure about pollarding.

[Will C]

You will. Need to apply to the council tree officer for any works of this nature. Not a issue, you can do it your self or most reputable tree surgeons will do the paperwork on your behalf.

[woody paul]

If they have TPO I would of thought re-pollarded would not be aloud, so thin and shape best options but also carried out at the right time of the year is another critical fact to keeping them in good health. 

[Stere]

Jusr re reading this says beech were done every10 -  15yrs by the basques

 

https://www.ancienttreeforum.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/A-study-of-practical-pollarding-techniques-in-northern.pdf

 

 

Thought I had read 20yrs somewhere was the traditional rotation.

 

So 10-15yrs  sounds good

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

On 22/02/2021 at 09:21, Nykib said:

Hi I’m looking for some help regarding two tree in my front garden , firstly I would just like to say I love the trees and would not want to remove them . 
I have recently received a letter off the council putting tree protection orders on the trees which makes me feel very anxious (should I be)

The trees have apparently been cut down at some stage during their lifetime and have very thick trunks which makes the crown of the trees quite low and blocks out the sun to my house , my concern is that I won’t be able to thin the crowns of the trees when I feel is necessary with the T.P.O is here anyone that could advise me on objecting to this order or do you think it’s not necessary, thanks in advance I will try an upload some photos of there current appearance and one from 2018 which shows the trees in full leaf

What is the reason for the TPO?

 

Has there recently been a planning application nearby?  Why would the LA ‘suddenly’ feel the need for a TPO on such previously relatively long standing trees?

 

Pics seem to indicate mature trees, previously pollarded/topped, elevated position immediately adjacent to highway. 
 

A TPO at this stage might usually be as a consequence of a perceived ‘threat’ to tree retention or a consequence of somebody at Parish or LA level getting all excited about trees and attempting to initiate mass TPOs. 
 

Future tree management isn’t barred by a TPO but the reason, nature and extent of proposed work needs to be approved by LA. This can often be perceived as intrusive and burdensome depending on the TO’s personal approach to such matters. 

[daltontrees]

On 10/03/2021 at 16:04, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

What is the reason for the TPO?

 

Has there recently been a planning application nearby?  Why would the LA ‘suddenly’ feel the need for a TPO on such previously relatively long standing trees?

 

Pics seem to indicate mature trees, previously pollarded/topped, elevated position immediately adjacent to highway. 
 

A TPO at this stage might usually be as a consequence of a perceived ‘threat’ to tree retention or a consequence of somebody at Parish or LA level getting all excited about trees and attempting to initiate mass TPOs. 
 

Future tree management isn’t barred by a TPO but the reason, nature and extent of proposed work needs to be approved by LA. This can often be perceived as intrusive and burdensome depending on the TO’s personal approach to such matters. 

Closest thing to someone answering the original question.

 

Succesful objection to a TPO would only be ion legal (procedural) grounds. Hardly worth objecting most times.

 

TPO doesn't mean you can't fdo anything, just means you need to ask first and give a good reason for it, generally showing that the amentiy that the trees provide will not be lost.