Poll on two rope technique.

[jarborist]

As Mark said, but as mick said too - not so practical as you hope it might be. 

[Rich Rule]

Never.  Unless I need it.  
 

But that isn’t very often.  

[skyhuck]

8 minutes ago, Mark Bolam said:

As long as you can still reach the ground I would say that’s fine.

Pretty sure that's not actually a requirement, hence the need for a knot in the end of your rope. Crazy, IMO.

[Stubby]

22 hours ago, Mark Bolam said:

As long as you can still reach the ground I would say that’s fine.

You can always reach the ground . Its at what speed that is important 👍

Edited February 3, 2021 by Stubby

[Joe Newton]

11 minutes ago, Mick Dempsey said:

But that means for a 20 mètre tree you’d need 80 odd mètres of rope to reach the ground on ddrt, which is a lot.

No, only one system needs to be able to reach the floor. By unclipping the tail I'm back to my main system and able to get down

[skyhuck]

Just now, Joe Newton said:

No, only one system needs to be able to reach the floor.

Is this new? Was never a requirement in the old best practice.

[Joe Newton]

27 minutes ago, skyhuck said:

Both ends, old school.

It's got too work for me. Carrying a second line around is impractical and frankly, completely gay.

 

The option is always there for me if I need it, but doesn't get in the way when I'm not using it. Takes less than a minute to pop a second system in. 

[Joe Newton]

1 minute ago, skyhuck said:

Is this new? Was never a requirement in the old best practice.

I don't know about the old days, but from what I understand of the new regs, only one of the systems has to be able to get you down, so if you were working with two lines, or a main line and a backup, only one would have to be long enough to get you down.

 

I could be wrong though, I'm sure Paddy numbers will tell me you. 

[skyhuck]

5 minutes ago, Joe Newton said:

I don't know about the old days, but from what I understand of the new regs, only one of the systems has to be able to get you down, so if you were working with two lines, or a main line and a backup, only one would have to be long enough to get you down.

 

I could be wrong though, I'm sure Paddy numbers will tell me you. 

In the past it was always seen as acceptable to descend , stop, reroute rope and then complete the descent, hence the need for a knot to stop you dropping off the end of the rope. Not something I've ever done, always used long enough rope and never had a knot.

[Joe Newton]

17 minutes ago, skyhuck said:

In the past it was always seen as acceptable to descend , stop, reroute rope and then complete the descent, hence the need for a knot to stop you dropping off the end of the rope. Not something I've ever done, always used long enough rope and never had a knot.

I've misjudged it a few times and had to get the ladders up, or drop the last metre or so. 

 

I don't bother with a stopper. Occasionally a well meaning groundy will tie one for me when I'm climbing 🙄