Anyone on here work for echo?

[tim361]

I’ve currently got the new dcs 2500t which I really like and since buying it my 2511t hasn’t come out of the locker. Does anyone know if the are planning on doing a larger top handle comparable to the husky 540i xp?
 

 

[Stubby]

1 minute ago, tim361 said:

I’ve currently got the new dcs 2500t which I really like and since buying it my 2511t hasn’t come out of the locker. Does anyone know if the are planning on doing a larger top handle comparable to the husky 540i xp?
 

 

I just don't know .

[Moose McAlpine]

49 minutes ago, Stubby said:

I just don't know .

Well of course you don't, Stubby! You don't work for Echo!

[markrufrider]

i don't work for them i do a lot of reviews test and keep a close relationship with echo uk im currently going to become a european adviser for echo products witch is in the pipeline iv put this question forward to contacts that i no who work for yamabikho corp and the reply was very short all i got back was quality takes time and watch this space a selection of new saws are coming in echo range . personally with the response that echo have had from the 2500t and the 2511t they will be bringing a bigger more powerful battery top handle saw when tho i have no idea the thing with echo iv learnt is it will not be released till its 100 % perfect there quality control is something else i no they stopped the production on the new 7310sx because of 1 carb failure on the test bench till they resolved the issue i will keep u posted on any updates i hear but its very quiet at the moment im sure things will develop more in 2021 

[tim361]

7 minutes ago, markrufrider said:

i don't work for them i do a lot of reviews test and keep a close relationship with echo uk im currently going to become a european adviser for echo products witch is in the pipeline iv put this question forward to contacts that i no who work for yamabikho corp and the reply was very short all i got back was quality takes time and watch this space a selection of new saws are coming in echo range . personally with the response that echo have had from the 2500t and the 2511t they will be bringing a bigger more powerful battery top handle saw when tho i have no idea the thing with echo iv learnt is it will not be released till its 100 % perfect there quality control is something else i no they stopped the production on the new 7310sx because of 1 carb failure on the test bench till they resolved the issue i will keep u posted on any updates i hear but its very quiet at the moment im sure things will develop more in 2021 

Thank you, will watch this space

[Gnarlyoak]

On 03/01/2021 at 21:35, markrufrider said:

i don't work for them i do a lot of reviews test and keep a close relationship with echo uk im currently going to become a european adviser for echo products witch is in the pipeline iv put this question forward to contacts that i no who work for yamabikho corp and the reply was very short all i got back was quality takes time and watch this space a selection of new saws are coming in echo range . personally with the response that echo have had from the 2500t and the 2511t they will be bringing a bigger more powerful battery top handle saw when tho i have no idea the thing with echo iv learnt is it will not be released till its 100 % perfect there quality control is something else i no they stopped the production on the new 7310sx because of 1 carb failure on the test bench till they resolved the issue i will keep u posted on any updates i hear but its very quiet at the moment im sure things will develop more in 2021 

Well if you are going to become a European advisor for Echo can you please advise them to make sure they have plenty of spares in stock, in country for their saws please, and available everywhere!! There are a million & 1 outlets all over the web for parts, and bits & bobs for Stihl & Husky saws but a veritable desert for commensurate Echo parts!!!

I don't know what it's like for ground saws (I don't own one) but trying to get spares for their top handle saws (I have a CS-360 TES) is a chuffin nightmare. There have been other threads here on AT about the challenges of finding spares for the 2511T so I'm sure it's not an isolated issue for me & my 360.

 

So my advise to Echo would be to buy/rent a big (or bigger) warehouse in the middle of the UK, stock half of it with products you want to sell to the professional user, stock the other half with the spares needed to repair those products when they break. A broken saw or other tool collecting dust on a bench in a workshop whilst trying to source spare parts or waiting for them to be shipped in from the far east or some other far flung global manufacturing point is not going to help the professional user make any money. So if buying an Echo professional work tool means having to endure prolonged down time & wasting more time trying to find spares parts, then I'd be better off spending my hard earned on a Stihl or Husky tool where spares are more readily available and easier to acquire from multiple sources. Otherwise, IMHO, Echo cannot really hope to be a long term viable contender in the UK chainsaw market, and risk just being seen as a small, novel bit part player on the side.

 

As an example, off the shelf parts (when compared to parts I can find for Stihl/Husky) that I am struggling to find (even including on Echo UK's own website) are things like replacement bar; chain sprocket; chain brake spring and or fuel/oil caps. Whilst some official Echo dealerships might have the odd item listed on their own individual websites, I am struck by the prevalence that what few parts are available the majority are listed as "out of stock". Whether this is down to delays along the manufacturing and distribution chain due to Covid or the complex uncertainties brought about by the transition of the UK's departure from the EU's customs union in the run up to Brexit is never clear but "out of stock" smacks of a lack of preparedness and foresight when it comes to Echo's attitude to it's UK after sales market!

 

Whatever new products that Echo might currently have in development to be brought to the marketplace in 2021, if they haven't got an adequate and readily available stock of spare parts to replace bits when they break, then all they are producing is bigger more expensive paper weight to sit on the repairs shelf collecting dust waiting for spares to be sourced from "gawd knows where, gawd knows when"!

 

Just my "two penneth" worth. Thanks. 

Edited January 9, 2021 by Gnarlyoak

[Treerover]

I’ve currently got the new dcs 2500t which I really like and since buying it my 2511t hasn’t come out of the locker. Does anyone know if the are planning on doing a larger top handle comparable to the husky 540i xp?
 
 

Bloody hell ....,really ? I know absolutely zilch about the DCS model of which you speak but I’d love to see an a/b comparison of cutting speeds of your 2500t and the 2511t which drops my jaw every day I use it .....in a way that I feel I need to bequeath some of my estate upon death to the wonderful folk on here who recommended it (roll credits ..)
Can anything really be better other than a lazer ?
(For clarity I have pepped her up slightly as per the usual porn mods ...which I again thank the .....blah blah blah 🤩)

But yes....to your point.....imagine an Echo to the standards of those two luminaries , the size of an 020 but with crazy Echo power to weight ration circa 2021 type shiz .
I’ll sign up now..!!! [emoji6]

[Piston Skirt]

On 09/01/2021 at 19:39, Treerover said:

Bloody hell ....,really ? I know absolutely zilch about the DCS model of which you speak but I’d love to see an a/b comparison of cutting speeds of your 2500t and the 2511t which drops my jaw every day I use 

Well, stock vs stock 2500/2511 is in the beginning of the video:

 

[Treerover]

Well, stock vs stock 2500/2511 is in the beginning of the video:
 

Blimey !!! [emoji15] That’s impressive .
Thank you for sharing that. It’s certainly got my interest [emoji1303]

[spuddog0507]

On 09/01/2021 at 18:19, Gnarlyoak said:

Well if you are going to become a European advisor for Echo can you please advise them to make sure they have plenty of spares in stock, in country for their saws please, and available everywhere!! There are a million & 1 outlets all over the web for parts, and bits & bobs for Stihl & Husky saws but a veritable desert for commensurate Echo parts!!!

I don't know what it's like for ground saws (I don't own one) but trying to get spares for their top handle saws (I have a CS-360 TES) is a chuffin nightmare. There have been other threads here on AT about the challenges of finding spares for the 2511T so I'm sure it's not an isolated issue for me & my 360.

 

So my advise to Echo would be to buy/rent a big (or bigger) warehouse in the middle of the UK, stock half of it with products you want to sell to the professional user, stock the other half with the spares needed to repair those products when they break. A broken saw or other tool collecting dust on a bench in a workshop whilst trying to source spare parts or waiting for them to be shipped in from the far east or some other far flung global manufacturing point is not going to help the professional user make any money. So if buying an Echo professional work tool means having to endure prolonged down time & wasting more time trying to find spares parts, then I'd be better off spending my hard earned on a Stihl or Husky tool where spares are more readily available and easier to acquire from multiple sources. Otherwise, IMHO, Echo cannot really hope to be a long term viable contender in the UK chainsaw market, and risk just being seen as a small, novel bit part player on the side.

 

As an example, off the shelf parts (when compared to parts I can find for Stihl/Husky) that I am struggling to find (even including on Echo UK's own website) are things like replacement bar; chain sprocket; chain brake spring and or fuel/oil caps. Whilst some official Echo dealerships might have the odd item listed on their own individual websites, I am struck by the prevalence that what few parts are available the majority are listed as "out of stock". Whether this is down to delays along the manufacturing and distribution chain due to Covid or the complex uncertainties brought about by the transition of the UK's departure from the EU's customs union in the run up to Brexit is never clear but "out of stock" smacks of a lack of preparedness and foresight when it comes to Echo's attitude to it's UK after sales market!

 

Whatever new products that Echo might currently have in development to be brought to the marketplace in 2021, if they haven't got an adequate and readily available stock of spare parts to replace bits when they break, then all they are producing is bigger more expensive paper weight to sit on the repairs shelf collecting dust waiting for spares to be sourced from "gawd knows where, gawd knows when"!

 

Just my "two penneth" worth. Thanks. 

Well said and thats my take on it as well, got 3 Stihl dealers with in 12 mile of me and 2 husky dealers and 2 Echo dealers, for me my nearest Stihl dealer 1 mile away wins every time, Ok it may not be the cheapest place but not that bad, bought a few new saws of him now and if i need any thing its usually in stock, and last time i took a saw in for repair it was half 4 one afternoon and got a phone call day after at 11am, its ready to collect, i cant argue with that one,,,