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Yeah, Kubota kx019-4 might be a different story but when I was looking I tried the kx018-4 and didn’t like it much. Ended up with the Tak TB216 which I bought blind as thought it’d be a similar story to its predecessor, it has quite a few design flaws and slew control is not nice- too erratic and sloppy. However, very stable, Tak got it nicely counterbalanced and hasn’t had any issues in the 2.5 years I’ve had it so far. It does the jobs I ask of it but definitely wouldn’t buy it again though 

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3 minutes ago, swinny said:

Fair enough. Haven't a clue personally but just wanted to put into perspective for when looking at second hand machines. Thanks

That would be with all the extras included (4 buckets) Cabbed quick hitch ect but dealers vary and with this brexit and corvid shite going on 

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7 minutes ago, swinny said:

Fair enough. Haven't a clue personally but just wanted to put into perspective for when looking at second hand machines. Thanks

Is it a 1-2 or 2-3 ton machine your looking for swinny. My mate has a 3 ton Takeuchi all piped up fitted with a newish grapple (6 months) Bought it for a self build which is just about finished 

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