Right to Roam

[openspaceman]

5 hours ago, MattyF said:

Wow .... I wonder if you would feel the same if we all come traipsing through your property taking what we wanted, dumping rubbish , scaring your pregnant or with young livestock... I may have slightly agreed with you but in the last 6 months with the great British public venturing out illegal camping , poaching , endangering livestock , vandalising woods and trees and pretty much any other I can do what I want behaviours there should be stricter anti trespassing laws.. I’ve seen people poaching , dumping rubbish, shooting crossbows , dogs chasing wildlife and livestock and that was only in the last two days...

@MattyF the right to roam  is just that not a right to do the things you suggest which are all criminal acts. I only own a cottage with a small garden with a well used sidewalk at the front and public footpath to the side with hedges but no locked gates to prevent people trespassing, it seldom happens but I do regularly find poo bags and litter chucked into the hedges and have had things stolen from the garden and cars.

 

The right to roam is also restrictive on CROW access land and is not the same as the rights on registered common or section 15 land.

 

All those things you mention also happen on other public places like roads, parks and  the foreshore to which people have rights of access which you wish to curtail.

 

Don't get me wrong, I am appalled at the things people do in the countryside  and from a nature conservation point of view I was against the wholesale opening up of some land but to restrict access to the countryside unless you can afford to own it was ended with by the mass trespass on Kinder Scout.

 

The problem with  younger people not being concerned about the countryside is "That you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone"

[struie]

On 20/09/2020 at 11:43, Stubby said:

I would check the deeds . See if there is anything in there . You have my sympathy . Its a pain in the arse  , literally .

since the r to r came to scotland,the amount of litter,dogs running wild in the pheasent woods,nesting birds being disturbed,not just the game birds,the bloody cheek and abuse you get when they are informed politely that the forestry road is shut for felling,and the hivis barrier tape and signage is their for a reason,but what really gets ma dander up is bloody mountain bikers dumping their guts and those plastic water bottles where ever they please.anywhore rant over.you have my sympathy woodnicer.

[Khriss]

2 hours ago, struie said:

since the r to r came to scotland,the amount of litter,dogs running wild in the pheasent woods,nesting birds being disturbed,not just the game birds,the bloody cheek and abuse you get when they are informed politely that the forestry road is shut for felling,and the hivis barrier tape and signage is their for a reason,but what really gets ma dander up is bloody mountain bikers dumping their guts and those plastic water bottles where ever they please.anywhore rant over.you have my sympathy woodnicer.

Fell a tree on them , lesson will be learned,  K

[Khriss]

Often the shooting fraternity can be worst, but all of the Above are a pain in yr ass at some point. K

 

Just reminded of the RAC rally coming thru Kershope forest every year, we got kicked out fr 2 weeks whilst it were on,  appen.  

Edited September 22, 2020 by Khriss

[youngsbury]

Get loads of trespassing at the moment especially one guy who walks his dog ( off lead ) in the park and woods and always leaves his fosters cans in the same place! I had enough of this messy twat so I set a poachers alarm up with a 12g cartridge ( shot removed ) it got triggered and haven’t seen him since !. God I wish I had set a camera up ?

[Stere]

Map for wales common land  (but its not all marked on there ,as thereare areas on the local OS maps that are marked as common that have not being added to the one below )

 

Lle - Map

LLE.GOV.WALES

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Assume theese areas have a  right to roam  / CROW land.

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjyipqs7_XuAhVJQMAKHShWBw0QFjAJegQIAxAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ramblers.org.uk%2F~%2Fmedia%2FFiles%2FGo%20walking%2FAccessFactSheet-FS8.pdf&usg=AOvVaw0570fxhjwElv3X46HQFbH7

 

 

 

 

Edited February 19, 2021 by Stere

[daltontrees]

Can't be arsed with this thread since woodnicer couln't be arsed even to say what country he/she is in.

[Billhook]

I was strongly advised by the NFU to put up signs saying "Private Land, No Public Right of Way" and warned that failure to do so may lead to someone bringing a case for a public footpath if they could show that people have had unchallenged access for a period of years.

I allow polite people in the village to walk through the woods if  they, a, pick up litter, b, have dogs on a lead, c, report back to me any suspicious activity, d, report any interesting wildlife.  

So far it has worked well and people seem to appreciate the lack of "Git orf my Land" approach.

But we do have a low population here, away from  major town and mainly elderly retired and more responsible folk.

[openspaceman]

1 hour ago, Billhook said:

I was strongly advised by the NFU to put up signs saying "Private Land, No Public Right of Way" and warned that failure to do so may lead to someone bringing a case for a public footpath if they could show that people have had unchallenged access for a period of years.

I allow polite people in the village to walk through the woods if  they, a, pick up litter, b, have dogs on a lead, c, report back to me any suspicious activity, d, report any interesting wildlife.  

So far it has worked well and people seem to appreciate the lack of "Git orf my Land" approach.

But we do have a low population here, away from  major town and mainly elderly retired and more responsible folk.

You should also deposit a landowner statement under section 31(6) of the Highways Act 1980 with the planning authority and review it every 6 years, this makes it clear you have no intention to allow any tracks on your land to become rights of way.

[Billhook]

6 minutes ago, openspaceman said:

You should also deposit a landowner statement under section 31(6) of the Highways Act 1980 with the planning authority and review it every 6 years, this makes it clear you have no intention to allow any tracks on your land to become rights of way.

Thanks for that good advice