Who’s going to work today?

[Johnsond]

9 minutes ago, topchippyles said:

Me and tommy been in my yard cutting all day for 3 rush orders. Picked up another 3 orders by means of know one can get normal suppliers to deliver anything

 

Les was that for a standard size or made to order ??. Got plenty of Douglas left and time on my hands at minute.  

[Johnsond]

8 minutes ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

All I’d say is, don’t be afraid to take the bastards on. 
 

If they’ve sent you a demand, ask for it to be reviewed. 
 

That’ll take a while and then depending on the outcome, seek a Tribunal. 
 

Don’t think you have to bend over, make them work for it and you might get them bent over. 
 

There might be interest on outstanding after it’s all done & dusted but the knowledge that they have had to pay out more than you end up giving them should off set that. 
 

(I know it’s a false victory since they’re funded through the tax system but it’s a victory none the less)

Well fucked off to tell truth Kev 

worst thing is we had no choice at all but to go down the route we did. Something HMRC are well aware of but just don’t seem to give a shit 

[topchippyles]

4 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

Les was that for a standard size or made to order ??. Got plenty of Douglas left and time on my hands at minute.  

Sorry lost me here ??

[trigger_andy]

1 minute ago, Johnsond said:

Well fucked off to tell truth Kev 

worst thing is we had no choice at all but to go down the route we did. Something HMRC are well aware of but just don’t seem to give a shit 

Is IR35 only affection Oil field guys or other industries too? If its other industries as well maybe they have a headstart on it? 

[Johnsond]

2 minutes ago, topchippyles said:

Sorry lost me here ??

The order you received was it for standard size ie 4x2 or something different. ?or logs for that matter. 
just thinking Maybe I’ll try and generate some income from that pile of Douglas I’ve got. 
Hopefully that makes sense 

[Johnsond]

6 minutes ago, trigger_andy said:

Is IR35 only affection Oil field guys or other industries too? If its other industries as well maybe they have a headstart on it? 

Not altogether sure Andy as You know I’ve been dealing with this for a while now but they seem to be ramping up the pressure big time. To state the obvious the  timing could not be worse. 

[topchippyles]

10 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

The order you received was it for standard size ie 4x2 or something different. ?or logs for that matter. 
just thinking Maybe I’ll try and generate some income from that pile of Douglas I’ve got. 
Hopefully that makes sense 

Sorry now i got you.No i had a load of mixed softwood there which was only good for fire wood so i did all the cutting and tom ran  the splitter, Got 6 ton knocked out as its the first time tom has really managed to concentrate for more than an hour, With his autism he drifts away but will clean up and wheel barrow all day long.Love that boy i do ?

Edited March 30, 2020 by topchippyles

[harvey b davison]

Not in great detail but basically a total of 48 of us were at different times employed through an agency contracting us out etc. Told on numerous occasions yeah compliant not a problem all ok etc etc, key thing was if you didn’t go through the agency whom were the sole labour provider for the client we worked for basically you didn’t work, 4 years later HMRC come knocking saying you should have done X not Y  etc etc 
give us the difference in tax and oh by the way let’s have a bit of interest. Zero comment from agency and contracts manager from said agency whom no longer works there ?‍♂️?‍♂️Fucking brilliant. 
HMRC doing the standard thing and kicking the shit out the little guy. 
Stick in a bit of lock down and no work and things all of a sudden are looking pretty grim. 
 
 

Feel for you pal, years ago I used to work through the agencies on building sites. Was working for one that I hadn't done before, 6 month later a letter arrived stating I was wanted for interview at Sheffield, enquired with agency why would HMRC want to interview me and they just gave me a load of rubbish, went for an intense 2hr interview, at the end the 2 guys stood up and wished me all the best. Turned out that the agency had not been paying tax, but because I had all my books in order along with pay slips stating that tax had been paid, I didn't have a case to answer, but they warned me to stay away from that agency, and gave me a few tips on what to look out in future. I was bloody relieved to get out of the building, I can tell you.

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

1 hour ago, Johnsond said:

Well fucked off to tell truth Kev 

worst thing is we had no choice at all but to go down the route we did. Something HMRC are well aware of but just don’t seem to give a shit 

They fucking work for YOU, it’s not the other way round!

 

Their own customer charter states that they are to adopt the position that everything you say & do is genuine UNLESS they can prove otherwise. I forget the exact wording but it’s well worth looking up. 
 

@harvey b davison sounds like they played the billy big bollox with you mate. As above, well worth having a nosey at their charter. Cnuts- all of them!

[Puffingbilly413]

On 29/03/2020 at 19:28, trigger_andy said:

That is how it looks currently, I can see that getting drastically re-defined in the coming days. 

Interestingly up here Andy it seems to be unless your work contributes to the C19 area then it's deemed non-essential - definite differences in detail between Holyrood and Westminster in what's specified.  But at the same time Sturgeon also stated that window cleaners and gardeners that could work without coming into contact with other could do so as they will assist the elderly / others who are isolated etc and hence deliver a necessary service.

 

Saw the same kind of thing but the other way round in a Confor note that someone (sorry forgot who) posted the other day saying that firewood and other fuel-related processing activities could continue.  Again, up here it seems to stretch only to biomass and pallets etc ie fuel that's not deemed essential.  So if you sell logs to a family with a log boiler then in theory you can keep going.