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HSE ALERT - Zig-Zag failure

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We are agreeing; Zigzag failed, climber fell from height, investigation isn't adequate, or probably in accordance with RIDDOR, and answers are wanted.

 

As I said earlier

5 hours ago, EdwardC said:

...someone should encourage the organisation to report it. Also, someone should encourage Petzl to provide the findings of their investigation into the failure, and provide guidance on how to avoid similar incidents.

 

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I would like to think if this was a true to life incident that both the HSE and petzl would have acted sooner on the subsequent riddor report submitted. 

 

It would not be in the interests of any large company to hide a potential falure such as this and to risk any law suits. 

 I believe that the last time this device had issues it was advised that it should be out of service until futher investigation was launched and results published.

 

I would say that 90% of arb's on hear take their health and safety seriously and will have looked at the facts presented on this bulletin. 

Scratch the surface and alarm bells ring on the integrity of this information.

 

 

 

 

 

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I think there is more to this possible failure than is being disclosed.

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Hi Everyone - I'll post this here but also as a thread to make sure it doesn't get lost.

 

We've been in touch with PETZL to get clarification on this alert, which was originally published by the construction firm managing the site in question 'KBR'.

 

UPDATE: https://www.trees.org.uk/News-Blog/Latest-News/Correction-and-Update-Safety-Bulletin-UAG065

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Correction and Update:

Safety Bulletin UAG065

Reference: UAG Safety Bulletin 65 sent on Tuesday 25 February titled ‘HSE ALERT – High Potential Equipment Failure / Fall From Height’

The details in UAG Safety Bulletin 65 were originally published by a construction company responsible for the site where the incident referenced occurred. There were factual and technical inaccuracies contained within the alert which should be disregarded. We apologise for any inconvenience this has caused.

Update and further guidance

Thank you to PETZL for providing the following update and technical information. Please read it carefully and distribute accordingly.


Petzl Update:

PETZL are aware of the product referred to in the (UK) Arb Associations Safety Bulletin dated the 21st of February 2020 Ref. No. UAG065. The product had been sent back to PETZL in late December 2019 for full analysis. The analysis that was reported to the customer in January 2020 showed there were no broken parts and no manufacturing defect with the product, but it was found to be a maintenance issue.

PETZL would like to remind all users how to care for your ZIGZAG to maintain the function and prolong the lifetime of your product.

 

All information about the specific instructions on inspecting, checking and maintaining can be found on PETZL.com.

 

Petzl ZIGZAG product page

www.petzl.com/GB/en/Professional/Descenders/ZIGZAG-PLUS

On this page you will need to click the link for Technical Information, this will lead you to 4 downloadable documents detailing:

  1. Technical Notice
  2. PPE Inspection procedure
  3. PPE checklist
  4. Tips for maintaining your equipment.

Should you have any questions or require advice on correct use, inspection and maintenance of your PETZL product please contact your local PETZL after sales department.


The Association recommends that users regularly inspect kit and always take care of their safety gear by following the specific maintenance recommendations for each product used in their Personal Fall Protection System.

 

 

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Since the ZigZag came into the climbing world have seen a few units that clearly looked seriously abused.Watched climber walking around dragging their devices or ropes/lanyard through muddy puddles or chucking them over saws etc.Thankfully it,s been a minority.Sounds obvious but to a few it isn't.You life absolutely depends on keeping your climbing kit in good order.

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So this was pure scaremongering from the AA? 
 

Releasing a fake HSE safety bulletin a month after the manufacture had inspected and given their verdict on the zigzag. Yet not including the manufacturers verdict in the safety bulletin? 
 

Seems like the AA needs to be going to the other AAs meetings and lay off the sauce! 

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I always thought those Zigzags were shit, bit of bike chain with a pulley on it, is all - bought Unicender instead- far and away sturdier. K

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Sorry guys I’ve been out the game 3 years now and getting back into I’m at weekends, I’ve noticed the zigzag has changed I’ve still got the one with the swivel at the bottom, should I still be using it as it was my retired friction device that I’ve dusted off and currently have back in use, I was aware of the cracks before and it was swapped over maybe 5 years ago now.

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Sounds like you have the ZZ Mk2? Keep it clean,don't cross load it happy climbing.

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