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Accepting the fact this is HSE law and we should be doing it, let's gather photographic evidence of the goods(?) and bads of this new system.

 

What works, what doesn't.

 

Maybe if there are enough bads we can tell them to reconsider ...

 

 

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2 minutes ago, warren said:

Accepting the fact this is HSE law and we should be doing it, let's gather photographic evidence of the goods(?) and bads of this new system.

 

What works, what doesn't.

 

Maybe if there are enough bads we can tell them to reconsider ...

 

 

To me , it seems a fucking nightmare . I am just an observer now but unless you work for one of the big organizations why would you put yourself in what seems to be a much less efficient situation , a more costly situation and possibly a more dangerous situation .  If you are a small outfit and have not died yet on one rope are you going to adopt this ?

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14 minutes ago, Stubby said:

To me , it seems a fucking nightmare . I am just an observer now but unless you work for one of the big organizations why would you put yourself in what seems to be a much less efficient situation , a more costly situation and possibly a more dangerous situation .  If you are a small outfit and have not died yet on one rope are you going to adopt this ?

One word No

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1 minute ago, htb said:

One word No

Exactly .  Can't possibly see how it could be policed in that situation . 

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Suppose they will fine me for forcing myself to climb on one rope. Same goes for loler, fine me for forcing myself to climb on untested kit, if I have any doubts on kit it gets binned and replaced.

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Accepting the fact this is HSE law and we should be doing it, let's gather photographic evidence of the goods(?) and bads of this new system.
 
What works, what doesn't.
 
Maybe if there are enough bads we can tell them to reconsider ...
 
 

I think yes, the more under-pinning proof of unsuitability we have as an industry to petition or lobby government and get this over-turned the better......but I’m f*cked if I’m hauling round two ropes just to prove the point !!
I’m looking into the correct direct approach to petition this direct to government and get it overturned.
It’s a bloody farce and no mistake .
But your plan is a good one Warren

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I first started using this two rope / anchor system back in 2015, when I started doing climbing for a utility company that required it.

 

I was over 45 at the time, having been a climber since the 90’s.

 

.....amazing how an old fart can adapt to some things seemingly quicker than the young-bloods!

 

 

[discretely pushes a pair of Blake’s-hitches under his climbing bag with his toe]. 

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36 minutes ago, Treerover said:


I think yes, the more under-pinning proof of unsuitability we have as an industry to petition or lobby government and get this over-turned the better......but I’m f*cked if I’m hauling round two ropes just to prove the point !! emoji23.png
I’m looking into the correct direct approach to petition this direct to government and get it overturned.
It’s a bloody farce and no mistake .
But your plan is a good one Warren

Dont you need something like 100,000 signatures? Good look getting that!

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Rock and ice climbers have been using twin ropes for years. Not because the HSE said so, but because it's safer, and it's just become natural. Have a look at the half rope systems climbers use, that may be a good way forward. Afterall, just about all the kit you use comes from the climbing world.

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True, but they are only going one way and generally do not have branches to get in the way wrap around. Used twin ropes for Ice climbing in the 80's but mainly to share the load if you fell on very sketchy anchors.

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