Big J on radio 4..

[Paul in the woods]

4 minutes ago, AHPP said:

Yeah. Everybody will move out of the cities.

I didn't say, and don't think, everyone will move out of the cities. (Actually will there be an outside of cities if there's not planning restrictions, will one city just merge into the next?).

 

But, there's plenty of people who are willing to move out. Those people buying up all the rural property and pricing Big J out of the market for one. Many would have loved the chance to buy a large chunk of land and build a new property rather than buy and expensive, run down farm, and renovate.

 

As for a land tax, very John McDonnell.

[eggsarascal]

6 minutes ago, AHPP said:

I'm afraid they're not lovely. They're parasites.

Funny old world, if you're poor and claim benefits you're a good for nothing fucking scrounger, if you've got 200 acres and claim benefits you're lovely.

[tree-fancier123]

Maybe our laws on foreign ownership of land and residential property don't help. 

 

Also the goverment arent considering food security with all the relaxed planning. A serious drought all accross europe, or even warfare.

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

48 minutes ago, eggsarascal said:

Funny old world, if you're poor and claim benefits you're a good for nothing fucking scrounger, if you've got 200 acres and claim benefits you're lovely.

Nail meets head ??s

 

nevermind “benefit street” if folks were aware of the scale and scope of public subsidy and beneficial business terms provided to the ag sector there’d be outrage!

[difflock]

1 hour ago, Conor Wright said:

Not familiar with what happened in nz. Did it work?! I live under a mossy rock and news can be a while coming my way!

Agriculture in New Zealand - Wikipedia

EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG

In the very first paragraph, ALL agricultural subs were  removed in the 1980's

[difflock]

1 hour ago, AHPP said:

I'm afraid they're not lovely. They're parasites.

From a NI perspective, where most farms are family owned, they either bought the farm with earned income, but most probably inherited it, so, why does this make them parasites, assuming, not unreasonably, that they are merely lawfully claiming what somebody else in Government decided they were entitled to claim.

[eggsarascal]

18 minutes ago, difflock said:

From a NI perspective, where most farms are family owned, they either bought the farm with earned income, but most probably inherited it, so, why does this make them parasites, assuming, not unreasonably, that they are merely lawfully claiming what somebody else in Government decided they were entitled to claim.

Fuck me!

[AHPP]

2 hours ago, Paul in the woods said:

I didn't say, and don't think, everyone will move out of the cities. (Actually will there be an outside of cities if there's not planning restrictions, will one city just merge into the next?).

 

But, there's plenty of people who are willing to move out. Those people buying up all the rural property and pricing Big J out of the market for one. Many would have loved the chance to buy a large chunk of land and build a new property rather than buy and expensive, run down farm, and renovate.

 

As for a land tax, very John McDonnell.

I'll be honest. You're losing me. Suffice to say that if you seriously believe flooding the UK developable land market with fifty-four million acres (compared to the six million acres currently built on)* is going to increase land prices, I'm probably incapable of reasoning with you.
*figures from the top of google 

 

P.S. I said 'exclusive land value tax' and not 'land tax.' There are big differences.

[AHPP]

2 hours ago, eggsarascal said:

Funny old world, if you're poor and claim benefits you're a good for nothing fucking scrounger, if you've got 200 acres and claim benefits you're lovely.

But the lovely landowning scroungers will bolster the economy by trickling the money down to contractors etc, who will then pay tax which will pay their own wages. That could work indefinitely.

I also have a design for a personal mobile elevated work platform. You stand in a bucket and lift yourself up by the handle.

[AHPP]

1 hour ago, difflock said:

From a NI perspective, where most farms are family owned, they either bought the farm with earned income, but most probably inherited it, so, why does this make them parasites, assuming, not unreasonably, that they are merely lawfully claiming what somebody else in Government decided they were entitled to claim.

If a tick is born on a bullock's bollock, it's still a parasite. I wouldn't try to appeal to it on a moral level though. Humans I will. Lots of people are born into circumstances where they can claim for stuff. Many don't because they don't think they should have something that was stolen from someone else and/or they don't want to support systems that would steal from them to give to other people again.