Pricing in the UK (west Country)

[eggsarascal]

22 minutes ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

Good post Mark ??

 

Nobody has mentioned yet:

 

Pick your jobs / customers wisely and price accordingly. Avoid spending time and money chasing the job where they’ve already had 300 quotes and are still looking to save another 20 quid. 

How much can someone set up for, secondhand chipper, truck, grinder, insurance, yard if needed?

[Mark Bolam]

56 minutes ago, Alex O said:

Not quite sure where in the west country you are but that price is well over the average 2 man team for here. (Plymouth) for some small companies that would be nearly two days working to earn that. Good for you if you’re getting that.

Why are they bothering working then?

[Alex O]

Why are they bothering working then?

The prices down here mark are unbelievable really and way off from where they should be I would say an average day rate for a two man team is probably £350-£450 ish some are charging slightly more and some are less and basically buying the work, I can’t complete with them and won’t even bother trying.

[billpierce]

Why are they bothering working then?

I dunno, 400 quid a day is 140 for groundie and 260 for a climber with a truck and chipper and a bit rigging kit. Maybe not amazing but better than a kick in the fork?

Ah the endless rates discussion

[Mick Dempsey]

4 minutes ago, billpierce said:

 

 

I dunno, 400 quid a day is 140 for groundie and 260 for a climber with a truck and chipper and a bit rigging kit. Maybe not amazing but better than a kick in the fork?

Ah the endless rates discussion

 

 

Good point, if you’ve a decent, old, paid for, chipper and truck combo it’s not so bad, throw in a portion of it as folding and it’s a decent living.

Edited July 23, 2019 by Mick Dempsey

[Alex O]

I dunno, 400 quid a day is 140 for groundie and 260 for a climber with a truck and chipper and a bit rigging kit. Maybe not amazing but better than a kick in the fork?

Ah the endless rates discussion

Groundsman £80-£90 a day climber around £120-£150 [emoji30] can’t even blame that on Brexit . A good climber here , which is very limited will get the £150 and that’s top end.

[Mark Bolam]

Aye, it's alright in that scenario.

Goes tits-up when you need a new truck or chipper, mind.

 

It's no way to run a proper business.

 

The groundie won't be on £140 Bill, probably half that.

[Mick Dempsey]

1 minute ago, Mark Bolam said:

Aye, it's alright in that scenario.

Goes tits-up when you need a new truck or chipper, mind.

 

It's no way to run a proper business.

 

The groundie won't be on £140 Bill, probably half that.

Well, yes and no. A truck around 3k, a decent chipper 5k, if you’ve got any sort of credit history a bank will lend you that if one or the other lets go.

 

You can make a living like that, and many do.

[billpierce]

2 minutes ago, Mark Bolam said:

Aye, it's alright in that scenario.

Goes tits-up when you need a new truck or chipper, mind.

 

It's no way to run a proper business.

 

The groundie won't be on £140 Bill, probably half that.

Aye depends if they subby or full time eh. I guess what i mean is 400quid a day for 2 man team isnt all doom and gloom. Id like to think if i was out getting 260 a day most days, id have a bit change left over when its new truck o'clock. 

[lux]

There is no wrong or right answer but I can’t see sense in people pricing jobs as wages. If you have an old chipper / truck invariably they break down or need repairs etc which is pretty gutting if that’s your wages gone to pay for it. I wouldn’t entertain sole trading. I know my daily overheads wages , fuel , insurance etc etc the list goes on. I make sure I’m covering it and then making profit after tax in the business account. The more organised you are on the numbers the more it will pay off.
It is very difficult if everyone around you is cheap but try pushing your prices up , you will soon get a good feel if it’s viable or not and as someone mentioned you can price yourself out of the work you would rather not do and hopefully improve your client base to those with deeper pockets and nicer jobs. Hopefully you see an improvement in your margins [emoji106]