Emissions, Global warming or a scam

[Khriss]

1 hour ago, openspaceman said:

"but scientific studies indicate that the average global volcanic output is insignificant when compared to emissions from human activity. "

 

...being a significant quote about CO2

....or more like this , 80 ton per day of SO2, from a satellite survey of a volcanoe, now don't start asking me to verify data from institutes as I have a day job an walk to work, k

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5343458/

[Woodworks]

On 08/04/2019 at 18:30, Haironyourchest said:

Yeah...I been taking a sabbatical from the internet last few days - phone trouble.. had a long rant on the other Global Warming thread. Heard a thing on YouTube the other day that made sense to me, to paraphrase: The most powerful institutions in the world are banks. Banks care about money, and nothing else. Banks make money by lending money intelligently. They have the resources to hire people who are very very good at making accurate predictions about the long term future. Yes, they occasionally get it wrong, but mostly they get it right, or they wouldn't have such vast wealth. Banks have been, and continue to invest in seafront realestate and development to the tune of trillions a year. Some of these investments are decades long loans. Twenty years ago the "climate scientists" were telling us many of these seafront areas would be underwater by the year 2000. They were wrong. In 2000, they were saying they would be underwater by 2020. We're not there yet, 8 months to go, but I think it's safe to say, they were wrong. A lot of angst was suffered for years by millions of people because of predictions that were just plain wrong. And the banks knew it the whole time. The kept investing, and continue to invest, in seafront development. Just a thought...

Times they are a changin  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47941180

Edited April 17, 2019 by Woodworks

[Woodworks]

Looks like the banking sector has woken up whats happening  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-47965284?intlink_from_url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science_and_environment&link_location=live-reporting-story

[Mesterh]

The futures bleak.........

 

 

[Haironyourchest]

I read a terrifying thing today, that in 2050, Britain's climate will be comparable to present day Barcelona.

[Woodworks]

You know how there has been endless press on how methane from cattle and sheep is so bad for the environment? Well if this is right all the figures have been faulty from the start and methane is a non issue for UK meat production 

BVA blog - Ruminant agriculture can help us deliver net zero emissions

WWW.BVA.CO.UK

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Chief Executive at Farmwel, ffinlo Costain argues that grass-based cattle and sheep systems can be climate neutral by...

 

[Squaredy]

1 hour ago, Woodworks said:

You know how there has been endless press on how methane from cattle and sheep is so bad for the environment? Well if this is right all the figures have been faulty from the start and methane is a non issue for UK meat production 

BVA blog - Ruminant agriculture can help us deliver net zero emissions

WWW.BVA.CO.UK

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Chief Executive at Farmwel, ffinlo Costain argues that grass-based cattle and sheep systems can be climate neutral by...

 

That is a very interesting article.  As always it shows the true answer to reducing man made climate change is not simple.  Just the same with palm oil - some of it is grown in a sustainable way - it doesn’t have to cause deforestation.  It is all about local appropriate management of methods and outcomes.  
 

The developed world should certainly reduce meat consumption, but not necessarily by becoming vegan.

[Woodworks]

1 hour ago, Squaredy said:

That is a very interesting article.  As always it shows the true answer to reducing man made climate change is not simple.  Just the same with palm oil - some of it is grown in a sustainable way - it doesn’t have to cause deforestation.  It is all about local appropriate management of methods and outcomes.  
 

The developed world should certainly reduce meat consumption, but not necessarily by becoming vegan.

Nothing ever is simple is it. I always had a gut feeling that there was something screwy with the methane figures but gut feelings dont cary much weight. Nice to see a decent explanation at last.

 

When the numbers are in on UK grass fed beef and lamb as apposed to US soya fed stock I suspect the carbon from feed figure will drop substantially more. Might even find it's not such a bad idea eating a bit of red meat after all.

Edited October 20, 2019 by Woodworks

[Haironyourchest]

I was watching a thing about a project in Africa, where they are restoring grassland. They discovered the problem was too few cows. The biosphere in their neck o the kids requires a certain concentration of roaming rumenants to survive. Without the cows, the grass doesn't get cropped, and dies standing in the winter, whereapon it chemically decomposes as opposed to biologically deconpises, which robs the soul of nutrients. The cows hoofs also break up the crust, which allows rain to penetrate and pool. Without the crust disruption, the rainfall runs off as is wasted. I'll try and find it again...

[Woodworks]

9 minutes ago, Haironyourchest said:

I was watching a thing about a project in Africa, where they are restoring grassland. They discovered the problem was too few cows. The biosphere in their neck o the kids requires a certain concentration of roaming rumenants to survive. Without the cows, the grass doesn't get cropped, and dies standing in the winter, whereapon it chemically decomposes as opposed to biologically deconpises, which robs the soul of nutrients. The cows hoofs also break up the crust, which allows rain to penetrate and pool. Without the crust disruption, the rainfall runs off as is wasted. I'll try and find it again...

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