what's up with swearing?

[DanBous]

Sorry guys, to deviate from the title of the thread, but people's ignorance sometimes needs education!!

[Rich Rule]

1 minute ago, DanBous said:

Sorry guys, to deviate from the title of the thread, but people's ignorance sometimes needs education!!

The initial quote was a bit off the mark...  

 

But then again it is just a story.

 

 

[Stubby]

4 minutes ago, DanBous said:

@Vespasian
These are not my own words but have a read of this...

let’s be clear what this woman was requesting. She was asking that the Lord and His disciples accompany her to her home in pagan Tyre or Sidon to heal her daughter. That would involve not simply a quick quiet trip in and out of her city, but a full-scale mission to the Gentile population of the area. Jesus of Nazareth was not able to make quick quiet trips anywhere, for wherever He went a great crowd followed Him. Acceding to the woman’s request would mean days ministering to all the sick, demon-possessed, and afflicted of Tyre and Sidon. And this was not the time for such a mission to the Gentiles. As the Lord said, He was then sent only to the lost sheep of the House of Israel (Matthew 15:24), and even the Twelve were told to conduct their mission only in Jewish towns, avoiding cities of the Gentiles and the Samaritans (Matthew 10:5-6). The time for a full-scale outreach to the Samaritans and Gentiles would come later. That is why our Lord refused her request. To deny the Twelve their desperately needed rest to minister to the Gentiles of Tyre and Sidon would be as inappropriate as taking the food from the table at which hungry children were sitting and giving it instead to the little dogs under the table. Surely anyone could see that the children must be fed first. The needs of the Twelve for rest must take priority over the needs of the Gentiles in those cities.

Then the Canaanite woman makes her response—and changes her request. Okay: Jesus will not accompany her to her place of residence. Let the children be fed. But little dogs can still eat the odd crumb that falls from the table while the children eat. Let the Lord say the word and heal the woman’s daughter at a distance, while He and the Twelve stayed here resting!

It was a bold request, and one that showed tremendous faith on her part. Many people had faith that Jesus could come and heal; this woman had faith He that could heal at a great distance, His simple word of command working a miracle across the miles. That is why Jesus did not say, “O woman, great is your boldness” or “O woman, great is your perseverance”, but rather, “O woman, great is your faith” (Matthew 15:28). And because of this faith, Christ granted her second request, healing her daughter instantly across the miles—“she went home, and found the child lying in bed, and the demon gone (Mark 7:30).

We see in this passage that Jesus does not in fact call the Gentile woman “a dog” or even “a little dog.” Rather, He compares the situation of conflicting needs to the situation of hungry children sitting at a food-laden table with hungry little dogs underneath, and says that the children at the table must be fed first—to explain why He cannot accompany her to her home. His willingness to grant her second and amended request shows His great love for her, and for all the children of men. That love even bridged the gap between Jew and Gentile, giving to the Canaanite woman in advance what would later come to all the Gentiles of the world.

Phew . That's cleared that up then .

[Jonny69]

5 hours ago, Joe Newton said:

You're a special kind of country bumpkin though. 

We simple folk prefer the term "Hick from the sticks"

[the village idiot]

14 minutes ago, Arboricultured said:

The questions stand though and I would recommend looking for the answers

And in your view, where should the answers lead?

[Arboricultured]

To a greater understanding of the nature of reality.

[Vespasian]

1 hour ago, TIMON said:

 

No, and this is where your ignorance gets exposed (again)....he says it isn’t lawful to take from the children and throw it to the dogs’, a reference to Jews and Gentiles. Then the woman says ‘but even the dogs get the crumbs from the table’ and so he heals the woman’s little girl.

Sounds incredible......

But then so is the improbability of proteins forming and bonding together in sequence all on their own....

 

Lets be honest, considering the circumstances you'd expect a little charity without the begging..  

And the point was that Jesus just like Dawkins could be a little caustic to get a point across..

 

 

[felixthelogchopper]

1 hour ago, the village idiot said:

Might be best for thread integrity if we take this one outside.

 

I'll just get us started.

 

You lookin' at my bird?

I distintly heard Ti call your pint a puff.

[the village idiot]

1 minute ago, felixthelogchopper said:

I distintly heard Ti call your pint a puff.

Ooh! I'm feeling right alpha.

 

Prepare to be minced, Robins!

[felixthelogchopper]

Just now, the village idiot said:

Ooh! I'm feeling right alpha.

 

Prepare to be minced, Robins!

Careful, you'll be fathering children if you carry on like that.