Worthy of a TPO?

[Mick Dempsey]

I know Mark, you made those points clearly, it was pointless me repeating them.

 

It amazes me that there is any debate to be honest. Common sense answer is fell and replant a couple of meters in.

 

The wall will have to rebuilt anyway.

[swinny]

38 minutes ago, Mick Dempsey said:

I know Mark, you made those points clearly, it was pointless me repeating them.

 

It amazes me that there is any debate to be honest. Common sense answer is fell and replant a couple of meters in.

 

The wall will have to rebuilt anyway.

I said it first anyhow.... must be a time delay over in france haha ? 

[Mick Dempsey]

True, went back and checked. 

 

 

[openspaceman]

2 hours ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

Your potential courses of action are:

 

If CA but no current TPO - decline the ‘invitation’ to withdraw the S211 notice

It strikes me this is the only reasonable option

 

1 the clock is already ticking

 

2 the TO wants it preserved but it is not of good form, though it may have public amentity

 

3 it's a liability and the owner will already have to demolish the wall for safety reasons as it's already 15 degrees out of true.

 

4 the TO will have to justify making the TPO and it will cost the council to serve it, will it go to planning committee or under delegated powers?

 

5 the owner then has 6 weeks to appeal and PINS gets involved

 

So the council have to decide is it worth the cost and the owner has to decide can he afford the appeal procedure.

[openspaceman]

8 minutes ago, EdwardC said:

There's no reason to withdraw the notice.

beat me to it

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

I didn’t mean to imply that withdrawal of the notice was ‘a preferred course of action’ but merely that it is 1 option.

 

Seeking or discussing the reasons why the request to withdraw it was made might be a first step in understanding how things might progress to mutual satisfaction. 

 

I know, an uncharacteristicly mellow suggestion which may, at first glance seem submissive, but jaw-jaw an all that. 

 

Normal service will be resumed shortly - I’m trying to maintain a (relatively) mellow January. Although I failed spectacularly with an epic, no holds barred, all guns blazing (wholly justified multiple expletive) rear up with the sparky re-fitting the solar panels today.  

[AA Teccie (Paul)]

6 hours ago, Khriss said:

So would put it under D.D.D. ( pushing wall out onto a footpath - foreseeable wall failure personal injury / death ) for removal and conditional replacement elsewhere.

Hmmm, not sure "D.D.D" can apply here...plus since 2012 TPO Regs changes it's only D.D...but 'dangerous' still covered, assuming that's what you're referring to (if so the 'danger,' a possibility, is indirect, i.e. displacing the wall to make it unstable, and not in relation to the tree condition itself, i.e. failure (unless you think the union is likely / probable to fail.))

Not too late to plant still, maybe get a replacement in now as a demonstration / commitment to continuous tree presence at the site...may come in useful later on, i.e. at appeal (if it goes that way) :I

[Khriss]

Soo not like you Kev it's only DC electrics, wot could go wrong realised my office batteries hadn't charged at weeknd.  Dropped a battery out of the circuit an presto- enuff voltage to get me lights on. K

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

1 hour ago, Khriss said:

Soo not like you Kev it's only DC electrics, wot could go wrong realised my office batteries hadn't charged at weeknd.  Dropped a battery out of the circuit an presto- enuff voltage to get me lights on. K

What language is that?

 

Electricery is white man’s magic - don’t mess with stuff that can kill you without even seeing it. 

 

Was a proper red mist rage today though - not fair to upload that story on this thread though

[Khriss]

38volt panel ( full sun ) - 3 batteries need 13.5volt charge each  = 40 volts. Grey winter day probly 26 volts from panel so dropped a battery out n power restored. K