The beauty of the Tax System

[AHPP]

What would be your ideal alternative? 

Big question. Not sure. How about we start with a lot less of it and see how that goes for a bit?

[trigger_andy]

Just now, AHPP said:

 

Big question. Not sure. How about we start with a lot less of it and see how that goes for a bit?

 

Yes its a big question but other than 'less tax' what would you consider a viable alternative? 

[Johnsond]

15 minutes ago, trigger_andy said:

What would be your ideal alternative? 

Flat rate across the board ie 20-25% after say 10k regardless of how much you earn no messing no need for a huge hmrc workforce and the tactics they use on investigations. work hard and you make more not get penalised. Tax system is so complex the loopholes are exploited massively by those who can afford to. 

[trigger_andy]

1 minute ago, Johnsond said:

Flat rate across the board ie 20-25% after say 10k regardless of how much you earn no messing no need for a huge hmrc workforce and the tactics they use on investigations. work hard and you make more not get penalised. Tax system is so complex the loopholes are exploited massively by those who can afford to. 

I completely agree with what you say. I hate the SNP for taxing me even higher than if I was in England. They just appease their majority base of soap dodging free-loaders. Anyway, its still tax and supposedly 'evil', I just wondered how AHPP would have schools, Uni's, the NHS, Pensions, infrastructure etc etc ran without tax. Its clear he has no alternative. Its just 'evil'.  

[AHPP]

Yes its a big question but other than 'less tax' what would you consider a viable alternative? 

Still a big question but I think I can see what you’re driving at. Tax money is to pay for stuff so if states don’t pay for as much stuff, they won’t need the money. Dial back on war for a start.

[Johnsond]

1 minute ago, trigger_andy said:

I completely agree with what you say. I hate the SNP for taxing me even higher than if I was in England. They just appease their majority base of soap dodging free-loaders. Anyway, its still tax and supposedly 'evil', I just wondered how AHPP would have schools, Uni's, the NHS, Pensions, infrastructure etc etc ran without tax. Its clear he has no alternative. Its just 'evil'.  

Hi Andy I was trying not to mention the SNP tax system as it's blatantly unfair and for them to claim you are rich if you earn 43000 is total rubbish. I know the sacrifices I make to support my family and the thought of the incompetent individuals whom take a bloody large chunk of it because I choose to work hard and try and better myself infuriates me. I agree we need to pay in to the system to support all the services, that I have no problem with but make it fair like I say fixed rate job done. Talking of tax my council tax bill is like having a never ending £200 a month bank loan, start putting vat on and all the other little money grabs and the total tax take starts to look very different. 

[Johnsond]

4 minutes ago, AHPP said:

Still a big question but I think I can see what you’re driving at. Tax money is to pay for stuff so if states don’t pay for as much stuff, they won’t need the money. Dial back on war for a start.

Dial back on interfering in other people's wars and problems and concentrate on a strong defence force and all the associated engineering and manufacturing jobs etc it generates would be a good start. Accountability on massively over budget publicly funded projects ie Scottish parliament building etc would be nice. 

[billpierce]

[trigger_andy]

20 minutes ago, AHPP said:

Still a big question but I think I can see what you’re driving at. Tax money is to pay for stuff so if states don’t pay for as much stuff, they won’t need the money. Dial back on war for a start.

Yes, cut back on war and all that good stuff. But for someone who akin's any form of taxation as slavery and the worst human rights issue surely you have formulated or at least agree with an alternative? Id be interested to know what that might be? Are you an advocate for communism or something? 

[AHPP]

I completely agree with what you say. I hate the SNP for taxing me even higher than if I was in England. They just appease their majority base of soap dodging free-loaders. Anyway, its still tax and supposedly 'evil', I just wondered how AHPP would have schools, Uni's, the NHS, Pensions, infrastructure etc etc ran without tax. Its clear he has no alternative. Its just 'evil'. [emoji3] 

If you want stuff, you can buy it. If enough people want it, someone will be there to sell it to you. And you’ll have shitloads of money to spend.

And am I fuck a communist! I’m a middle ground libertarian.