Brit Girls - Fat

[the village idiot]

2 minutes ago, Vespasian said:

Bit of head scratchier this subject..

 

Seems to me the environment forces people down lanes of travel, but the individual can choose which road to turn off on.. or is it that a person thinks he freely took road A, but unbeknownst to him the environment incrementally forced him down that road?...

 

 

I've have to ruminate on this an get back later..  I'll have an answer before the days out...

 

 

 

Precisely the second option. The brain helpfully or unhelpfully, depending on your perspective then tells you that you did make a free choice. "Well done you" it says.

 

When you talk about the 'environment' this needs to include the brain environment but not the concious brain. This comes in after the event.

[Gary Prentice]

4 minutes ago, Richard 1234 said:

When I used to commute about 45 minutes to work quite often I would get there and not remember 90% of the journey (from passing the edge of town usually) that always freaked me out a bit!maybe that was the same

Or you’re a very inattentive driver who’d be better using public transport?

[Gary Prentice]

27 minutes ago, Stubby said:

Shut up Gary .

Ha ha

[the village idiot]

4 minutes ago, Richard 1234 said:

When I used to commute about 45 minutes to work quite often I would get there and not remember 90% of the journey (from passing the edge of town usually) that always freaked me out a bit!maybe that was the same

That's similar but a bit different Richard. In fact, almost the opposite. You were almost certainly lost in thought. Your thoughts were taking you away from pure experience. Had you been in 'pure conciousness' mode the journey would have been non-judgementally captivating and a real joy!

[Khriss]

This is proven and actually very common experience. I think partly to stop brain overload. Obvs if yr driving the chip truck an got two idiots next to you babbling shite- this never happens  k

[the village idiot]

4 minutes ago, Khriss said:

This is proven and actually very common experience. I think partly to stop brain overload. Obvs if yr driving the chip truck an got two idiots next to you babbling shite- this never happens  k

 

Yes, it's commonly referred to as a flow state. It is constantly there, just shielded almost all the time by the chattering mind. People who train their brains to identify less with the Self illusion spend more time in flow.

 

You can often spot these people. They are calm, more gently accepting of their situation and happy.

[arbgirl92]

On 19/12/2017 at 09:36, MattyF said:

Wow ... We bored of been racist sexist bigots and now moved on to tearing up people bodies ?

 

Unfortunately some people need to feel better about themselves by making others feel sh*t about themselves. Not sure why we tear eachother down instead of building eachother up, but there ya go, thats the state of this toxic world nowadays.

 

My question is what the hell this thread has to do with trees? Think the OP may have posted on the wrong forum and should instead be directed to IThinkImBetterThanYou.com so he can rant about how he's offended by all the fat people on there.

[Mick Dempsey]

31 minutes ago, arbgirl92 said:

Unfortunately some people need to feel better about themselves by making others feel sh*t about themselves. Not sure why we tear eachother down instead of building eachother up, but there ya go, thats the state of this toxic world nowadays.

 

My question is what the hell this thread has to do with trees? Think the OP may have posted on the wrong forum and should instead be directed to IThinkImBetterThanYou.com so he can rant about how he's offended by all the fat people on there.

It’s in ‘the lounge’ so it doesn’t have to be about trees.

 

Although delivered in a joking/trolling manner, Matelot has raised an interesting thread about obesity, which is fair enough in my book.

 

Edited December 22, 2017 by Mick Dempsey

[Vespasian]

3 hours ago, the village idiot said:

Precisely the second option. The brain helpfully or unhelpfully, depending on your perspective then tells you that you did make a free choice. "Well done you" it says.

 

When you talk about the 'environment' this needs to include the brain environment but not the concious brain. This comes in after the event.

OK, done enough ruminating on this for the day.. 

 

Watched a vid or two, even watched one you got your idea's from I dare say... Sam Harris...  then watched one from someone arguing free will does exist, but turns out it was some bible basher gettin in his twopence worth.. 

 

Anyways, thinkin on the subject in my own time after watchin a few vids... 

 

Does it matter?..  does it matter if we do the things we do because of predeterminismn or through an act of free will?..   and the answer is NO.

 

Crime and criminality usually get dragged up on debates about free will.. I couldn't help it gov!!!!..  it was the other me that made me do it.. thus giving thieving *unt's an excuse and mitigation...

 

Well thats OK if your gonna lean on mitigation for your defense...   

 

Well, Mitigation ain't what it used to be.. originally mitigation was introduced to explain errant behavior, and help psychologists to understand criminal behavior... it was never intended to be used as a device to excuse criminal behavior..

 

Criminal behavior is what it is, its simple..  you break the law, the law breaks you..   No ifs or buts, no it wasn't my fault, just black and white you did it or you didn't..   if you did it, then you get shit on in court.....

 

 

If we go down the road of two actors at play, then this vid might give you an idea of the confusion that might entail in courts of law..

a Sovereign citizen in court arguing the toss..  not about free will but does have a bearing on the debate... plus its pretty funny...

 

 

 

[Khriss]

....no suprise gun laws are not as strict in US,,, K