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[WesD]

I'm the same rate regardless of what day it is I just thought I would add another dimension to the thread.

[Rich Rule]

If some clients want a job done specifically on a weekend or a bank holiday they they should be charged accordingly.

 

Likewise, if a firm expect me to give up my weekend or bank holiday to do a job on a specific date I expect at least time and a half. This is the case 90% of the time. I also expected etc them to be charging their client for time ++.

 

It makes sense business wise and I can never understand why a company would work on unsociable hours just cos the client demands it but then doesn't charge for the service.

 

Why is that the case? Are the companies who don't charge extra at weekends or BH scared of doing so in case they lose the work?

[swinny]

Out of curiosity Rich, have you ever run your own business pricing in a competative market? Not just a freelance man.

[Rich Rule]

Freelance all the way mate.

 

The point I am trying to make is that a number of the firms I work for wouldn't dream off working a weekend without charging a premium for it.

 

That is how I believe it should be.

[Rich Rule]

As for freelancing. Here in the South it is a very competitive market.

 

I charge more than most but still manage to stay busy. I also ask for more in a weekend, but we have already covered that.

[Joe Newton]

As for freelancing. Here in the South it is a very competitive market.

 

I charge more than most but still manage to stay busy. I also ask for more in a weekend, but we have already covered that.

it's only fair to mention that you offer "other services" as well as climbing, which is why some of your clients will pay the extra.

 

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[Marc]

Freelance all the way mate.

 

The point I am trying to make is that a number of the firms I work for wouldn't dream off working a weekend without charging a premium for it.

 

That is how I believe it should be.

 

Non of the work we do has to be carried out on the weekend apart from the odd exception, if you want a day's extra work we can find it can't see why the team would then want extra half days pay for it.

I do think it weekends there should be a little extra or a nice easy 1/2-3/4 day at full pay.

 

I've worked 6 days weeks as long as I can remember make hay whilst the sun shines an all that.

 

Probably why my tax bill is also heart wrenching.

[Rich Rule]

There is a slight difference there Marc. You mentioned if someone wants an extra day's work then you will find it for them at a standard day rate.

 

That is a completely different scenario than a customer stating that the job has to be completed over a weekend.

 

If you had a job that required it to be completed at nights... you would obviously factor in all the requirements and then would you do it at a standard day rate...

 

I think not, I have always been paid double time for nightshift.

 

I don't see why weekends should be any different. Maybe not double time but certainly. It standard rate.

[swinny]

I think you being down south Rich lends to your senarios. I agree night work would be charged extra.

 

Ive no problem working a weekend its not sacrilgious to me.

 

I think you'd struggle getting day and a half or double pay if you lived up north. I know for certain all thenplaces ive worked would laugh you out the door. Though i'd be happy to be proved wrong. Not having a go btw

[Rich Rule]

No worries mate. I can only speak of my own experiences.

 

I think being south of the country may have some bearing on it. I also think the main factor in this is working for people whose attitude goes along the lines off..

 

"I wouldn't want to work weekend/nights/awkward start times without being compensated for it and neither should the guys who work for me."

 

These companies tend to have been running for a fair while, good stream of domestic and commercial clients and they are not low ballers. They charge for the skills, experience and machinery required.

 

It goes back to the old adage of you choosing your customers as opposed to the customers choosing you. Easier said than done, but many successful firms have achieved this through strategic marketing, word of mouth or just pure luck. For example working on private housing estates. Affluent people with money as opposed to working on council estates and run down areas.

 

A question for those that sub to railways or utility networks... If the allowed slot for work is out of usual working hours do they charge more? What about bank holidays? Working a christmas day shift etc... even a factory would offer you a better than standard rate.

 

Why should our industry be any different? It is IMO because people are worried about losing the job/client to a cheaper firm. Are these really the valued customer you strive for as you grow your business?

 

 

 

I used to work a fair few Saturdays but these days I prefer to spend the time with my kids or friends.

 

If it isn't time and a half, even an extra 20 quid on the day rate would differentiate the weekend from a regular working day.