2 vans or 7.5 toner

[Old Mill Tree Care]

No , we've only just bought it. The tipper tray is a fair bit bigger than a tranny. Should be able to build a good sized box on it.

 

 

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You don't need a big box. You're restricted by payload and a big box reduces your payload further.

 

 

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[skyhuck]

You don't need a big box. You're restricted by payload and a big box reduces your payload further.

 

 

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Exactly!!

 

The box on my mog is not huge, but will easily hold 3tonne of chip, I know because I've weighed it several times.

[lux]

Mixed fleet. We use a couple of 3.5t and a long wheel base mog with a large chip box.

The mog is great and swallows loads of chip but access / parking is an issue on a lot of domestic sites that would be prohibitive if a larger vehicle was your only option.

Plus you can split crews with a few vehicles and cover for vehicle down time.

Swap out the leaf springs on the 3.5t for beefier springs. Hides the weight well. It's so easy to be overweight on a 3.5 by the time staff and tools are in.

The springs don't stop you being overweight but you won't attract attention with the belly of the van scraping the road.

[skyhuck]

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Swap out the leaf springs on the 3.5t for beefier springs. Hides the weight well. It's so easy to be overweight on a 3.5 by the time staff and tools are in.

The springs don't stop you being overweight but you won't attract attention with the belly of the van scraping the road.

 

Which is fine until your pulled for a spot check and find your facing a fine and points on your licence, or worse still your involved in accident and find yourself in clink, the heaver springs could even be seen as premeditation.

[lux]

Every 3.5t van for arb work is usually overweight most days it goes out when loaded with chip and logs. The springs aren't used to carry extra weight over another 3.5t van they are used to carry the same weight better. Any 3.5t that you fill up a chip box on will be overweight. Even if it's not overweight in total it will be over on the rear axle which is exactly the same for penalty purposes.

Who is more likely to get pulled... the van scraping the road or the one sat nicely on its springs. ??

Even if you were unfortunate and had a dink your vehicle will not be taken off and weighed ....

[skyhuck]

Every 3.5t van for arb work is usually overweight most days it goes out when loaded with chip and logs. The springs aren't used to carry extra weight over another 3.5t van they are used to carry the same weight better. Any 3.5t that you fill up a chip box on will be overweight. Even if it's not overweight in total it will be over on the rear axle which is exactly the same for penalty purposes.

Who is more likely to get pulled... the van scraping the road or the one sat nicely on its springs. ??

Even if you were unfortunate and had a dink your vehicle will not be taken off and weighed ....

 

If someone is injured or worse it will.

[roseyweb]

I went for a lorry and never looked back

I still run a transit for smaller jobs but sod doing 10 tips a day and worrying about being overloaded

 

As for licences, invest in your team otherwise your holding your self back

O licence took me whole hour to fill in

 

[simonm]

The thing that stoped me from going hgv last time was where to keep the vehicle, I rent a bit of land which is by no means secure. I know it wouldnt last 5 minutes down there!

[lux]

If someone is injured or worse it will.

 

 

Vehicles subject of being involved in accidents involving life changing injuries or involving death are recovered for a vehicle exam which looks for defects not dissimilar to those looked at on an mot.

Braking and road surface coefficient are tested against the unladen and mam of the vehicle concerned but this does not involve weighing it.

 

I'm not condoning or encouraging over laden vehicles in anyway. Far from it. The issue with a 3.5t is by the time it has a chip box fitted has tools and 3 blokes in it there is very little payload left in the back.

 

My observation on up rated springs is that you will be carrying the same weight as every other 3.5t Arb truck but will be less likely to be pulled the the ministry or police and directed to a weigh bridge.

 

Every vehicle , mog, 7.5t and 3.5t has its place and use which is why a mixed fleet is advantageous. If allows for access on small driveways or limited parking. For bigger jobs with access take out the mog or lorry.

[lux]

Nice truck and chipper roseyweb

We run a bandit 1090. Fabulous machine.