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Springsteen is not a fan of Trump, I don't think he's on his own there, big deal!

We all have opinions.

Why post a song about about the lack of care and broken promises to Vietnam veterans?

I assume you have a specific point in choosing this particular song?

 

 

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Springsteen is not a fan of Trump, I don't think he's on his own there, big deal!

We all have opinions.

Why post a song about about the lack of care and broken promises to Vietnam veterans?

I assume you have a specific point in choosing this particular song?

 

 

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Is anyone really a fan of Trump? My understanding is that (proportionally) the American people were only interested in preventing Clinton getting elected.

Trump was the only other "game in town" he got elected purely because he wasn't Clinton, in the same way Obama got elected because he wasn't white. Which is also why he won the Nobel Peace Prize.

 

 

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Is anyone really a fan of Trump? My understanding is that (proportionally) the American people were only interested in preventing Clinton getting elected.

Trump was the only other "game in town" he got elected purely because he wasn't Clinton, in the same way Obama got elected because he wasn't white. Which is also why he won the Nobel Peace Prize.

 

 

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I can't really argue with that, other than Trump had the money to put himself there!(that's not an argument btw)

Also, that's politics! Shite eh!

 

 

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Is anyone really a fan of Trump? My understanding is that (proportionally) the American people were only interested in preventing Clinton getting elected.

Trump was the only other "game in town" he got elected purely because he wasn't Clinton, in the same way Obama got elected because he wasn't white. Which is also why he won the Nobel Peace Prize.

 

 

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My take also,based on the absolute loathing of the Clinton's on Benzworld.org, including by a significent %age of Democrat voters.

 

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IMO, elections are generally lost, not won.

 

Clinton was so hated anyone going against her would have stood a good chance.

 

The fact that he did not win by a landslide (or even lost the popular vote) suggests he is by no means popular, just the lesser of two evils.

 

But the hysterical reaction to his every move is just childish and could actually end up boosting his popularity.

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I think his reaction to not getting his own way is childish. He tweets like a petulant teenager bitching at the judges who have only told him 'no'. The American constitution is there to stop presidents turning into dictators. He's running the US now not his own business. He can't just do as he likes.

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Springsteen is not a fan of Trump, I don't think he's on his own there, big deal!

We all have opinions.

Why post a song about about the lack of care and broken promises to Vietnam veterans?

I assume you have a specific point in choosing this particular song?

 

 

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I'm well aware that Springsteen stands for everything that Trump doesn't. There was even talk of Trump hiring a Springsteen cover band to play at his inauguration.

 

My particular point was exactly that. Springsteen knows...

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I agree, you can certainly be concerned about immigration without being a racist. We should all be concerned about if only because so many people are.

 

Brilliant, after the last 50 years of people getting labelled a racist if they were concerned about immigration it's good to have some common sense.

 

You are only a racist (imo) if you start dictating which colour, race or creed you want in, or don't want in.

 

Things were looking promising...

 

Sorry, but it's becoming increasingly obvious that some "creeds" don't really belong in the West and cause nothing but trouble. Sweden is now the rape capital of the world (after Lesotho), why is that?

 

What "creeds" were behind the Cologne sexual assaults? What "creeds" are behind most terrorism?

 

IMHO, keeping those "creeds" out is pure unadulterated common sense...

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