Government proposes no MOT test for first 4 years

[Gary Prentice]

I'm convinced vehicle speedos are inaccurately calibrated as a matter of course.

 

I've got GPS on dashcam which reads 70 when vehicle speedo reads 79.

 

Better that, than the other way round.

[markieg31]

Great if you can afford a new motor means another saving for the rich. While the less well off carry on mot'ing every year they're old cars

 

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[flatyre]

hope this doesn't stir up too much of a backlash as I know many of you guys are from farming stock, but there is one simple fact that makes a complete mockery of the British mot system, why are farmers allowed to drive total wrecks on the road under the "agricultural" card? And before anyone says anything about "limited" use, it doesn't matter if they only drive six feet on public roads, they are still on public roads, and should therefore be made to have an mot like everyone else, and as for the "they must keep agricultural vehicles in a safe and reliable condition", sorry but I'm from a rural area and some of these vehicles are a disgrace. The whole point of an mot (other than a money making scheme) is because the government does not trust the public to maintain their vehicles to a suitable standard, unless your a farmer.....my car failed its mot last month on worn wipers, my mate makes a living from welding up 4x4's, mostly owned by farmers, he had an Isuzu trooper in last week that needed blocks of wood cable tied to the rear axle to stop it flapping about, cable ties held on both bumpers, half the lights didn't work, NO working wipers, chassis gone, anti roll bars hanging in thin air, bushes disintegrated, more play in the steering than my daughters play cart, etc. Yet its allowed on the road:confused1:

[Breezeblock]

You do know that they make some of the most reliable cars available?

 

The benefit is safer cars on the road.

 

if you look at your typical asian family they will most likely be buying Toyota nissan mitsibushi and also if you look at the news any self respecting isis or Taliban biffo wont be seen dead in a land rover I wonder why ps I aint racist

[Mick Dempsey]

Great if you can afford a new motor means another saving for the rich. While the less well off carry on mot'ing every year they're old cars

 

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Huh? It's because older cars need MOTing whereas newer ones don't.

 

It's a bit of a leap of logic to see it as a slap in the face for the poor!

[markieg31]

Huh? It's because older cars need MOTing whereas newer ones don't.

 

It's a bit of a leap of logic to see it as a slap in the face for the poor!

I was only joking forgot my smiley[emoji14]

 

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[Mick Dempsey]

:001_smile:Ahhhh.

[Treewolf]

I'm convinced vehicle speedos are inaccurately calibrated as a matter of course.

 

I've got GPS on dashcam which reads 70 when vehicle speedo reads 79.

 

There is actually a very sound reason for this. By law a speedo is not allowed to under-read, but can over-read by up to 10%. It would be very expensive to make a speedo which was exactly accurate (some Police cars have calibrated speedos), but it is realtively simple and cheap to make a speedo which is +/-5%.

 

If you made one which was spot on but +/-5% it would fail Type Approval, since it might under-read by 5% (illegal). However if you design it to over-read by 5% to start with, and then it is accurate to +/-5%, it will actually be +10%/-0% on true speed, which is legal.

 

With modern manufacturing, the majority of speedos will be more accurate that the guaranteed tolerances, so most will over-read.

[Justme]

Lots are now adjustable via the computer.

 

I can alter the wheel size in the settings via the dealer plug in computer to alter how accurate it is.

 

Currently I have it set to 3mph over read across the speed range.

[agrimog]

hope this doesn't stir up too much of a backlash as I know many of you guys are from farming stock, but there is one simple fact that makes a complete mockery of the British mot system, why are farmers allowed to drive total wrecks on the road under the "agricultural" card? And before anyone says anything about "limited" use, it doesn't matter if they only drive six feet on public roads, they are still on public roads, and should therefore be made to have an mot like everyone else, and as for the "they must keep agricultural vehicles in a safe and reliable condition", sorry but I'm from a rural area and some of these vehicles are a disgrace. The whole point of an mot (other than a money making scheme) is because the government does not trust the public to maintain their vehicles to a suitable standard, unless your a farmer.....my car failed its mot last month on worn wipers, my mate makes a living from welding up 4x4's, mostly owned by farmers, he had an Isuzu trooper in last week that needed blocks of wood cable tied to the rear axle to stop it flapping about, cable ties held on both bumpers, half the lights didn't work, NO working wipers, chassis gone, anti roll bars hanging in thin air, bushes disintegrated, more play in the steering than my daughters play cart, etc. Yet its allowed on the road:confused1:

if you would care to do your research, any vehicle like this can checked, and the driver/owner prosecuted the same as any vehicle requiring an mot, the RTA states " must be kept in a roadworthy and safe condition"