Reg on one handing a saw

[treequip]

Yes, you can pull that trigger with a handsaw on small stuff, but not big stuff, IME.

 

Why not use a chainsaw for the bulk and a handsaw tor the vinegar strokes??

[RC0]

I'll freely admit that my mental state has spiralled downhill for the last year to the point I bailed on my first job in almost 30 years of climbing this week. Your mental state and aptitude has more to do with it than your physical I would suggest.

 

 

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You just get a bad feeling about it or ?

[Taupotreeman]

You just get a bad feeling about it or ?

 

 

Several reasons Reg. originally I proposed two climbers in the tree (myself and my trainee so I could watch him work and be close if there was an accident) plus an experienced groundie and a bobcat. First the bobcat was removed followed by my groundie leaving me and a very inexperienced trainee. No Comms apart from shouting at each other, 30m Eucalyptus. Had the confidence smashed out of me by new management which had left me second guessing my every decision. In the end, I just had a bad feeling about the job when all of the above came together. Usually, it wouldn't be an issue but it goes to show how your mental state on any given day can affect your decision making.

 

 

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[RC0]

Several reasons Reg. originally I proposed two climbers in the tree (myself and my trainee so I could watch him work and be close if there was an accident) plus an experienced groundie and a bobcat. First the bobcat was removed followed by my groundie leaving me and a very inexperienced trainee. No Comms apart from shouting at each other, 30m Eucalyptus. Had the confidence smashed out of me by new management which had left me second guessing my every decision. In the end, I just had a bad feeling about the job when all of the above came together. Usually, it wouldn't be an issue but it goes to show how your mental state on any given day can affect your decision making.

 

 

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So you live to fight another day, mate. You get a feeling like that, best not to tempt fate. It's usually a sequence of things that build up to a mishap,....red flags, so to speak. I've heard so many stories of people ignoring all the warning signs only to regret it later. Not an easy decision to walk away, but the right one by the sounds

[Takjaa]

.... I have never 2 handed ANY saw.... EVER!! ... and never will.

 

Am I the only one??

 

 

[Mark Bolam]

You win Takjaa.

Fair play mate!

 

 

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[Haironyourchest]

Takjaa, you seriously need to make or acquire a mod for that arm - to accept a silky saw blade!

 

Just bumping this thread again (it hasn't been asleep too long) after I stumbled on these guys - three young tree climbers they been putting out a podcast. Might be old hat to the experienced guys, but for fellers starting out could be worth a listen - I enjoyed them anyway.

 

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[R Mac]

Just watched (most of) the video but I still feel that it isn't as simple as 2 hands good/1 hand bad.

 

There seem to be 2 schools of thought not counting the actual treeworkers themselves, you have the manufacturers who clearly designed the saw to be suitable for one handed use and the industry who when faced with injuries resulting from (an assumed?) one handed use have tried to come up with a solution and have opted for the easiest approach.

 

If one handed use of a chainsaw (top handle) is the root cause of the problem then you'd expect that there would be zero injuries sustained on the ground when the operator has been using 2 hands on a regular saw but obviously this isn't the case. In the case of unexpected kickback the problem seems to me to be related to a lack of awareness of where you're making the cut rather than how many hands are holding the saw.

 

It could be argued that a general lack of awareness when using a chainsaw whether aerial or on the ground, top or rear handle or one handed or two handed is the root cause of the injuries issue.

 

Just a thought as I don't really know where I stand on the issue but I'd certainly be reluctant to say one approach is right and one is wrong, I'll leave that to someone else.

[Stephen Blair]

You win Takjaa.

Fair play mate!

 

 

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Ditto that!

[jomoco]

Seems like I remember Stihl designing a trigger chain brake?

 

An inertia function as well would make it a bit more fool proof, IMO.

 

Kinduva multifunction trigger, somewhat like a double locking biner.

 

https://www.stihlusa.com/products/technology/chain-braking-systems/

 

Jomoco

Edited December 11, 2016 by jomoco