Potus ???

[Johnsond]

22 minutes ago, Mark Bolam said:

Big hand little hand that’s how I taught my kids. 

Ten to nein 

[GarethM]

3 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

Big hand little hand that’s how I taught my kids. 

Ten to nein 

So between 3rd Reich and far right ?

[Johnsond]

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[Youngstu]

7 hours ago, Johnsond said:

Absolute and utter shite full of baseless assumptions, a parent explaining to an impressionable teenager who has been bombarded with this crap that “ I’m sorry but there are only two genders male and female ” ( feel free to prove me wrong on this) is not right wing, angry or intolerant, what they are is a responsible adult explaining the reality of life. Not the left wing cloud cuckoo land shite you seem to believe in, which imo plays a big part in the massive increase in mental health issues with these kids who are pandered too by absolute fools. 

BS first world manufactured problem. 
Have you ever thought whoever it is you are referring to in your family might be right and that it’s actually your view that is contrary to the laws of nature and therefore bollocks. 
It’s not respecting anyone to play along with stupid fantasies, if you identify as x but I know you are z then don’t insult me my expecting me to go along with your bs. 

This might be a long one, so let's start with the first paragraph of your outburst:

Discussing the issues with your child with an open mind to what they have heard or feel could lead to some interesting discussions and the opportunity to express why you feel the way you do without just dismissing what they have heard from elsewhere as "crap".

This particular topic wasn't about this issue being right wing, that's just a massive amount of the other stuff you post on here, and presumably subject your children to,  but your absolute dismissal of these things comes across as angry and is intolerant.

 

There are so many factors influencing young people's mental health and some of the most influential are living up to the expectations of others and feeling that they can't be as good/attractive/strong/clever/successful etc as they feel they should be, whether that's based on the influence of their peers and role models, be they friends, family or others they know of through media etc.

 

Is pandering to them really the reason for the mental health issues, there are a fair few people in society of our generation whose mental health issues are undeniably caused primarily by the dismissal and oppression of those feelings about themselves that weren't "acceptable" at home, or at the time and the experiences that they had because of it, whether it was intollerance, dismissal, humiliation, physical violence or whatever they experienced because of their differences.

 

"BS first world manufactured problem" - You say a lot about all of the places that you've been in the world, so I'd expect you to know that the LGBTQ and trans thing is far from just a 1st world thing!

 

No I don't think that those in my family (and similarly in the familes of others) are right and I'm wrong, I think that they are uninformed and unwilling to see that their viewpoint is outdated and they need to reeducate themselves.  There's that age old response of there weren't all those gays/trans/lesbians etc back then, so why are there now? (normally given as a statement as opposed to a question that they want answering!) The clearest answer in reality is to do with the changes in the law and ways that people can't be discriminated against. When the country was much more homophobic, people who were gay and didn't want to either be beaten up or abused for it, or pretend they were something else would move away to more tolerant areas like Brighton, London or other places where they could be themselves without judgement and with a support network from others who understood and accepted them for being them. Now people can be openly gay/trans etc without the same level of fear that they would have had in the past.

 

It is absolutely about respecting an individual to accept what they believe to be true as being true for them. They may make a decision, go through an assortment of procedures and stick with their decision until they dies, or they may change their mind a few years down the line, the latter bit is why the powers that be have prevented young people from being able to access puberty blockers and undergo surgery until they are older, but if you've ever witnessed the effects of the mental turmoil of a teen who is considered to have body dismorphia and is doing what they can to (often painfully) hide the changes that come about through puberty such as binding etc you may have slightly more sympathy. At the end of the day why do you feel that you have the right to dismiss a person's opinion of themselves and who they are, and are you that hellbent on your own hatred of the idea to refuse to call a stranger, or someone you know by the name that they would like to use, or even the pronoun they wish to use. This final bit is a minefield for people of our generation as it's new and we won't always get it right, but if you approach it without the intention to offend the chances are thay they won't mind and accept that you made an innocent mistake, but if you refuse to do so because you think it's all bollocks it's completely disrespecting that person and the choices that they have made, you may think it, but you really don't need to express it to them.

[Johnsond]

5 minutes ago, Youngstu said:

This might be a long one, so let's start with the first paragraph of your outburst:

Discussing the issues with your child with an open mind to what they have heard or feel could lead to some interesting discussions and the opportunity to express why you feel the way you do without just dismissing what they have heard from elsewhere as "crap".

This particular topic wasn't about this issue being right wing, that's just a massive amount of the other stuff you post on here, and presumably subject your children to,  but your absolute dismissal of these things comes across as angry and is intolerant.

 

There are so many factors influencing young people's mental health and some of the most influential are living up to the expectations of others and feeling that they can't be as good/attractive/strong/clever/successful etc as they feel they should be, whether that's based on the influence of their peers and role models, be they friends, family or others they know of through media etc.

 

Is pandering to them really the reason for the mental health issues, there are a fair few people in society of our generation whose mental health issues are undeniably caused primarily by the dismissal and oppression of those feelings about themselves that weren't "acceptable" at home, or at the time and the experiences that they had because of it, whether it was intollerance, dismissal, humiliation, physical violence or whatever they experienced because of their differences.

 

"BS first world manufactured problem" - You say a lot about all of the places that you've been in the world, so I'd expect you to know that the LGBTQ and trans thing is far from just a 1st world thing!

 

No I don't think that those in my family (and similarly in the familes of others) are right and I'm wrong, I think that they are uninformed and unwilling to see that their viewpoint is outdated and they need to reeducate themselves.  There's that age old response of there weren't all those gays/trans/lesbians etc back then, so why are there now? (normally given as a statement as opposed to a question that they want answering!) The clearest answer in reality is to do with the changes in the law and ways that people can't be discriminated against. When the country was much more homophobic, people who were gay and didn't want to either be beaten up or abused for it, or pretend they were something else would move away to more tolerant areas like Brighton, London or other places where they could be themselves without judgement and with a support network from others who understood and accepted them for being them. Now people can be openly gay/trans etc without the same level of fear that they would have had in the past.

 

It is absolutely about respecting an individual to accept what they believe to be true as being true for them. They may make a decision, go through an assortment of procedures and stick with their decision until they dies, or they may change their mind a few years down the line, the latter bit is why the powers that be have prevented young people from being able to access puberty blockers and undergo surgery until they are older, but if you've ever witnessed the effects of the mental turmoil of a teen who is considered to have body dismorphia and is doing what they can to (often painfully) hide the changes that come about through puberty such as binding etc you may have slightly more sympathy. At the end of the day why do you feel that you have the right to dismiss a person's opinion of themselves and who they are, and are you that hellbent on your own hatred of the idea to refuse to call a stranger, or someone you know by the name that they would like to use, or even the pronoun they wish to use. This final bit is a minefield for people of our generation as it's new and we won't always get it right, but if you approach it without the intention to offend the chances are thay they won't mind and accept that you made an innocent mistake, but if you refuse to do so because you think it's all bollocks it's completely disrespecting that person and the choices that they have made, you may think it, but you really don't need to express it to them.

You were right it was long too long, full of incorrect assumptions , opinions and a whole load of nonsense, you have zero knowledge of how I interact or talk with my kids so why write so much shite based upon pure speculation 🤷‍♂️. If I were in your shoes YS id concentrate on my own kids ok, as I do mine. 
Like many on the left in regards this matter you have way too much to say about something that’s none of your business. There’s no minefields if you realise what nature shows us every single day, keep it simple there  are only two genders.

We won’t agree so let’s leave it, you obviously have wildly different views on the subject to me and my Mrs. 

[GarethM]

29 minutes ago, Youngstu said:

This might be a long one, so let's start with the first paragraph of your outburst:

Discussing the issues with your child with an open mind to what they have heard or feel could lead to some interesting discussions and the opportunity to express why you feel the way you do without just dismissing what they have heard from elsewhere as "crap".

This particular topic wasn't about this issue being right wing, that's just a massive amount of the other stuff you post on here, and presumably subject your children to,  but your absolute dismissal of these things comes across as angry and is intolerant.

 

There are so many factors influencing young people's mental health and some of the most influential are living up to the expectations of others and feeling that they can't be as good/attractive/strong/clever/successful etc as they feel they should be, whether that's based on the influence of their peers and role models, be they friends, family or others they know of through media etc.

 

Is pandering to them really the reason for the mental health issues, there are a fair few people in society of our generation whose mental health issues are undeniably caused primarily by the dismissal and oppression of those feelings about themselves that weren't "acceptable" at home, or at the time and the experiences that they had because of it, whether it was intollerance, dismissal, humiliation, physical violence or whatever they experienced because of their differences.

 

"BS first world manufactured problem" - You say a lot about all of the places that you've been in the world, so I'd expect you to know that the LGBTQ and trans thing is far from just a 1st world thing!

 

No I don't think that those in my family (and similarly in the familes of others) are right and I'm wrong, I think that they are uninformed and unwilling to see that their viewpoint is outdated and they need to reeducate themselves.  There's that age old response of there weren't all those gays/trans/lesbians etc back then, so why are there now? (normally given as a statement as opposed to a question that they want answering!) The clearest answer in reality is to do with the changes in the law and ways that people can't be discriminated against. When the country was much more homophobic, people who were gay and didn't want to either be beaten up or abused for it, or pretend they were something else would move away to more tolerant areas like Brighton, London or other places where they could be themselves without judgement and with a support network from others who understood and accepted them for being them. Now people can be openly gay/trans etc without the same level of fear that they would have had in the past.

 

It is absolutely about respecting an individual to accept what they believe to be true as being true for them. They may make a decision, go through an assortment of procedures and stick with their decision until they dies, or they may change their mind a few years down the line, the latter bit is why the powers that be have prevented young people from being able to access puberty blockers and undergo surgery until they are older, but if you've ever witnessed the effects of the mental turmoil of a teen who is considered to have body dismorphia and is doing what they can to (often painfully) hide the changes that come about through puberty such as binding etc you may have slightly more sympathy. At the end of the day why do you feel that you have the right to dismiss a person's opinion of themselves and who they are, and are you that hellbent on your own hatred of the idea to refuse to call a stranger, or someone you know by the name that they would like to use, or even the pronoun they wish to use. This final bit is a minefield for people of our generation as it's new and we won't always get it right, but if you approach it without the intention to offend the chances are thay they won't mind and accept that you made an innocent mistake, but if you refuse to do so because you think it's all bollocks it's completely disrespecting that person and the choices that they have made, you may think it, but you really don't need to express it to them.

Now let's agree that's absolute shite.

 

I know it's a shocker but being gay didn't just pop into being in 2024 ?.

[Yournamehere]

They're like a tag team, aren't they? 

Insecure & Inadequate.

[Youngstu]

1 hour ago, Johnsond said:

you have way too much to say about something that’s none of your business.

This is exactly the point I was trying to make to you!

[Johnsond]

21 minutes ago, Yournamehere said:

They're like a tag team, aren't they? 

Insecure & Inadequate.

The ATL ? I usually have at least 3 pinging back and forward so don’t concern yourself overly. 
Not sure why you keep referring to insecurity and inadequacies etc or what’s that got to do with people raising in my case 6 kids in a traditional family 🤷‍♂️

Edited 5 hours ago by Johnsond

[Youngstu]

2 hours ago, GarethM said:

Now let's agree that's absolute shite.

 

I know it's a shocker but being gay didn't just pop into being in 2024 ?.

Go on then Gareth, as you seem to have made it further than the first paragraph that your mate got to before seeing red and getting typically defensive, please do elaborate on what you think is shite and why. 

But I am glad that you recognise that being gay isn't something new..