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Next POTUS?  

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  1. 1. Next POTUS?

    • Hillary Clinton
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    • Donald Trump
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Posted (edited)

the actual videotape has been or will be destroyed accidentally on purpose

 

No worse than the Hunter Biden laptop from hell

 

Homan was recorded on hidden cameras accepting $50,000 in cash at a meeting spot in Texas on 20 September 2024, according to an internal summary of the case reviewed by MSNBC and sources who spoke to the outlet.

Edited by tree-fancier123
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1 hour ago, Big J said:

It is very difficult to debate this with you both

? Quick question J who was that you are referencing other than Andy. Just to avoid confusion. 

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3 hours ago, Johnsond said:

? Quick question J who was that you are referencing other than Andy. Just to avoid confusion. 

 

Yes, it is you and Andy to whom I'm referring.

 

I don't post often here, but it's mainly because any genuine criticism of the Trump regime is simply disregarded as TDS, lefty whining, woke agenda etc etc.

 

I think we can both agree that the Dems have been absolutely useless in recent years. Genuinely in the realms of chocolate fireguard useless. 

 

I think we can also agree that whatever a well functioning democracy is, the USA is not it.

 

And I will freely admit that I have been pretty shocked by how ineffective Labour have been in actually implementing any meaningful change. And saddened by how they have distanced themselves from some of the socially responsible policies that have always underlined Labour politics.

 

My honest opinion is that the Western World is utterly f**ked. Wealth is being concentrated in the hands of fewer and fewer people and it really feels like a great many people engage with democracy like turkeys voting for Christmas. Social media, AI and algorithms compartmentalise people into their own echo chambers and so many people become easy to manipulate.

 

I am not for a minute saying that you or Andy fall into that category. You're both a million miles from stupid - I just disagree with you fundamentally on just about everything politically.

 

Pivoting back to Trump and his cronies - he is symptomatic of our times. A depraved, dishonest reality TV star, appealing to the base values of a great many Americans who aspirationally place a greater value on wealth than anything else. They overlook his great, GREAT many faults because he is who they want to be. Wealthy, arrogant, shameless and without a hint of self awareness, he is the twisted 21st century embodiment of the American dream.

 

Again, I'm not suggesting that's the reason you are supportive of him, but I believe that many of his voters fall into that category.

 

Fundamentally, I just miss the times when there were less objectionable people in politics. George W Bush as an example - I disagreed with his politics, but I always felt that he meant well and wasn't in the Oval office for dishonourable reasons. 

 

I do try to assume the best in people, I fight the inevitability of cynicism and try to play a part in a more optimistic and hopeful world. These days, it feels like swimming against an increasingly strong current though.

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