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Posted
9 hours ago, Stere said:

 

MAGA caps may as well have skulls on them

 

The rightwing are obessed with ladyboys etc......

 

 

I think its a topic with  100's of others of more importance, though I can see it might be impotant if you are LGBT etc & as now they are gonna be  very likely, increasingly  persecuted.

 

 

& then whos next.....

First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist

Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist

Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist

Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew

Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

 

Well worth reminding the MAGA, especially on this of all days.

 

I imagine that if LGBT people were around in such numbers at that time they would definitely have been on the list. Before or after gay folk or Roma? Not sure. Probably green folk and "Climate Zealots" and Wokers wouldn't have stood a chance either.

 

It all started with "othering" of groups of people they didn't like/understand/envied/felt threatened by, etc. Subtle othering at first and then less and less subtle. Just like we're seeing again these days. I think we do actually need to be very careful at this juncture, people need to wake up to what's going on in the Western World.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted
16 minutes ago, sime42 said:

 

Well worth reminding the MAGA, especially on this of all days.

 

I imagine that if LGBT people were around in such numbers at that time they would definitely have been on the list. Before or after gay folk or Roma? Not sure. Probably green folk and "Climate Zealots" and Wokers wouldn't have stood a chance either.

 

It all started with "othering" of groups of people they didn't like/understand/envied/felt threatened by, etc. Subtle othering at first and then less and less subtle. Just like we're seeing again these days. I think we do actually need to be very careful at this juncture, people need to wake up to what's going on in the Western World.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

100% 42, 

Next they will be enforcing restrictions on public gatherings, shutting pubs and places where people gather to socialise. Keeping families apart. Stopping people travelling, restricting kids education, state sponsored propaganda encouraging the use of experimental  vaccination in the name of restoration of personal freedoms. Silencing those whom disagree with the state line. Utilising the full weight and power of the state to enforce draconian measures in the name of “ public safety” 

Yep you have to be aware of what’s going on around you  as you say, strange you have just mentioned it since Trump won 👍

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Posted
2 hours ago, Big J said:

I believe that we are witnessing the beginning of a sharp deterioration in the morality of western society, but with the US being the focal point for the time being. 

 

as they say, when the US sneezes, the world wipes their noses. Which is what is worrying, and can be seen above in this thread how idolising The Rapist is blinding people to repeat of history.

 

I don't go down the Nazi / WW2 path often but on the anniversary of 80 years of Auschwitz it is a fitting lesson to look back at history and the rhetoric of the Nazi party.. to how it started.. divide and conquer... and how it ended.

 

Preventing that is a fight worth fighting. To me this stems from a basic respect that a person is a person regardless of race, colour, religious, sexuality wealth or birthright. No one is born better or worse than any other. We're just born. Hatred is a thing we learn, and is a thing we pass on to our children.

 

just a lesson to look to history to see our future.

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Posted
18 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

100% 42, 

Next they will be enforcing restrictions on public gatherings, shutting pubs and places where people gather to socialise. Keeping families apart. Stopping people travelling, restricting kids education, state sponsored propaganda encouraging the use of experimental  vaccination in the name of restoration of personal freedoms. Silencing those whom disagree with the state line. Utilising the full weight and power of the state to enforce draconian measures in the name of “ public safety” 

Yep you have to be aware of what’s going on around you  as you say, strange you have just mentioned it since Trump won 👍

 

Nah ND. You've failed to understand as per usual.

 

Guess you're on about Covid yet again.

On 26/01/2025 at 18:11, Johnsond said:

**************** me let it go. 

 

14 hours ago, Johnsond said:

Jesus you left wing twats just can’t help yourselves , have to have the last little dig, Bigotry 😂😂 now eh, give yourself a shake get on  with raising your kids however you see fit,  I don’t give a shit what you think. let it ****************ing go man. 
 

 

Either you've misunderstood history or you're seeking to make political capital again by equating the horrors of the Holocaust with your own little bugbears. Seriously? I'm sure you stated recently that you were compassionate beyond belief.

 

If you still think that Covid, (the world's response to it specifically), is the greatest existential threat that we face then I'm afraid that you are very much mistaken. Again. You should look back over your reams and reams of "contributions" on your threads. Much of it is perceived very much as "othering", of the unsubtle variety no less. That way lies horror.

 

 

 

 

Posted
16 minutes ago, Steven P said:

 

as they say, when the US sneezes, the world wipes their noses. Which is what is worrying, and can be seen above in this thread how idolising The Rapist is blinding people to repeat of history.

 

I don't go down the Nazi / WW2 path often but on the anniversary of 80 years of Auschwitz it is a fitting lesson to look back at history and the rhetoric of the Nazi party.. to how it started.. divide and conquer... and how it ended.

 

Preventing that is a fight worth fighting. To me this stems from a basic respect that a person is a person regardless of race, colour, religious, sexuality wealth or birthright. No one is born better or worse than any other. We're just born. Hatred is a thing we learn, and is a thing we pass on to our children.

 

just a lesson to look to history to see our future.

Well SP it’s looking like Kissinger is in our midst. Talking of division and hatred between people, I’ve done two tours of NI and a UN tour on the green line between the Turkish and Greek parts of Cyprus, very little of what I see nowadays bears any resemblance to what I saw there. Your speech references Trump right at the beginning, you were more than happy with divide and conquer when Biden was the president or when ludicrous rules were being enforced here. Imo the subject is way way too complicated to understand or comprehend here but there’s a lot of politicians over the last 20-30 years up to present day who have enforced ideological, social and economic policies over a variety of countries that combined with recent mass immigration into Western Europe,  post destabilisation of the Middle East etc has contributed significantly to the divisions we see today. The Likes of Merkel and Blair etc are not without blame. You may be right and things may well kick off at some point, I’d suggest you and a few others get around a bit more then you will realise this is one of the most tolerant countries in the world. But people will only have the piss taken out of them for so long before it starts to chafe a bit. 

Posted (edited)
8 hours ago, sime42 said:

 

Nah ND. You've failed to understand as per usual.

 

Guess you're on about Covid yet again.

 

 

Either you've misunderstood history or you're seeking to make political capital again by equating the horrors of the Holocaust with your own little bugbears. Seriously? I'm sure you stated recently that you were compassionate beyond belief.

 

If you still think that Covid, (the world's response to it specifically), is the greatest existential threat that we face then I'm afraid that you are very much mistaken. Again. You should look back over your reams and reams of "contributions" on your threads. Much of it is perceived very much as "othering", of the unsubtle variety no less. That way lies horror.

 

 

 

 

No 42 there’s nothing really enlightening to understand, your double standards are something else’. Absolute garbage and quite frankly blatant lying. No one compared the holocaust to anything, that’s pure standard 42 twisting BS. You don’t want to see anything other than your own views and never have, you are ok with anything that aligns with your views and beliefs and won’t budge , the intolerance of the left is no better than the intolerance of the right. 
We saw much of what you warn of but you were fine with it as it aligned with your views. 
Strange if you want to mention political capital you didn’t call out another member for quoting a child murder recently then 42 🤷‍♂️at least try and be consistent. Where did I say covid was an existential threat ??. Don’t start lying and making things up eh, we have been down that road and it literally makes it all pointless. 
 

Facts you mean I presume in regards the below comment. We’ve already witnessed the horror on far far too many occasions here in the UK as well you know. There’s a few on here who have a lot to say about Israel defending itself too, normally the same ones who hate or won’t acknowledge the hard fact that 95% of terrorist deaths in the UK over the past 25 years  have been by Islamist perpetrators. So spare me the moral high ground routine.
 

othering", of the unsubtle variety no less. That way lies horror.

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3 hours ago, peds said:

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I’m sure if she gets the paperwork sorted she will be allowed in legally.  Raphouse TV 😂😂😂😂 what a source you got there, im 100% sure if I had posted a screenshot from that renowned news outlet, the howls of indignation much less a like, from a certain teammate of yours would have been deafening 😂😂😂😂

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