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I can never work out if you are agreeing or disagreeing or talking about something entirely different? As I said 5 hours ago I would be very happy with existing back boiler stove system that was properly setup with many of the safety features above. My understanding is there are two criticisms against back boiler stoves: - efficiency and clean smoke. current regs are pushing higher efficiency wood stoves that burn fast and hard. Introducing cold(er) water into a stove potentially cools it down which makes this hard to achieve. Personally I'm less concerned about efficiency and cleanliness because I have masses of dry wood and live in the sticks. If there isn't the right mixer value, more thinking is required. - safety. there is a risk that a system will either pressurize, boil if vented or run dry and pipes crack. Again I think all of this is possible to overcome with the right design and safety features. The bigger log central heating systems can dump water, pressure, shut the air right down and some can even extinguish the fire totally. I think the current industry, building regs, stove installers and plumbers etc, are being overly safety conscious and just taking the path of least resistance to push everyone onto leccy.

We had two crapuchi diggers that cooked rams, two log splitter that weeped oil-using it to much . The only think thats ever survived continually being used is machines fitted with a hydraulic oil cooler , stops rams, valve blocks and o rings from weeping

A loading valve won't realistically cope with such a small volume of a stove, I've got something like 100l of water in a 1/2ton boiler and 1500l tank fail-safe as a loading valve has a safety thermostat that just allows it to circulate without power. You're average house with maybe 150l central heating system just isn't going to handle it. The simplest solution is the one that's used by banning them, r&d isn't going to make any difference.

Thanks, that's very helpful and gives me a rough idea of logistics.

Fascinating, but I still behind my original assertion. I wish there was more R&D into modern stoves that can also heat water safely without the water cooling the stove down. As you know eco angus do this by controlling the burn with a fan, mix valves to control the return temperature and various safety features to stop overheating or excess pressure. Its not rocket science. I don't think pushing everyone onto electric is a good idea.

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I'm waterproof, I dont wear jackets. They tend to make you sweat and then your soaked through anyway.

That is true of a compressible fluid like a gas but oil is not very compressible which is why it is good for transmitting power in a hydraulic circuit. It's the friction in the pipes and squeezing through all the gaps in pumps and motors that make it hot.

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For groups of 3, a medium sized kit with good dressings and a few extras usually works well.. I have been using this one recently and it covers most things https://firstaidkitsuk.co.uk/products/premium-first-aid-kit-240-pcs

who is AI?

You don't need forced air fans on modern DEFRA approved stoves, that's why they're made with refractory stuff to burn hotter and vaporise the smoke, effectively a low rent pyrolysis as most are 5kw or less. It's also why they're not designed to slumber because it just falls too low temperature wise.

Well a good pyrolysis boiler goes to 1200 Celsius, so vaporisers absolutely anything flammable, leaving pretty much next to nothing.

Agreed - definitely a lapsed Hornbeam pollard. I'm lucky enough to have lots (50+) of them (pictures if anyone wants some ?). Occasionally they fall over, at which point they do indeed make excellent firewood (more calorific than Oak, I think) and it dries relatively quickly but .... it is notoriously hard especially when dried. I always make sure it's ringed up asap.

Not everyone has room for a boiler room or can afford to install an eco angus. I would just like there to be a middle ground between a £500 stove and a £5k eco angus. Modern stoves burn hotter and harder than older ones, but don't yet incorporate fans. Maybe stoves could include fans that are located outside which then pipe the air inside. Current policy seems to push everyone to electric heating/hot water/cooking, which puts pressure on the grid and generation and is not great in rural areas that suffer from power cuts.

Welcome to.think what you'd like , but why do you think it doesn't happen then? After oil gets squeezed and compressed it gets hot , with no way to cool down, same happens in diggers . Would you drive a car for a 100 miles without coolant or a radiator?

Im quite well of what the timber goes for and what happens to it the difference is filters, temperatures and a bottom ash. What do you think happens to the bottom ash then ?

I laughed.

I don't know if oil is still formed under an ocean, my old boss was sure as much oil was formed as was currently used, he was a successful entrepreneur so must be right. We do know that coal was formed at a specific time in earth's history when tree like plants were growing and had evolved lignin to stiffen up their structures to grow tall but before a microbe to digest lignin had evolved. It was a good thread and I wanted to post more but unfortunately the first shot was fired by someone who has not learned and it was from my side of the political spectrum.

Contributions as in plural 👍👍open forum lad. Ask mark J if you are so interested in the use of the word “ conclusion “ Must be some exciting day you lead. Maybe pop down to HMS Calliope and get the brass cleaned, place was a shithole last time I was there.

From memory I think 10litre will do around 250 trees if you are spraying a metre square with a medium flow nozzle.

Yes I think if the earth can turn leaves and dead fish into oil and coal (with time, heat and pressure) then surely it can do the same with plastics that are halfway there as they are. Fungi - a thing on the TV last night, they can do something with some of them to make an equivalent to wood, takes about a month to grow the fungi, rather than 30 for trees, they are our friends, and not just for breakfast.

That conversation had nothing to do with you, if I were you I'd check out what the word "conclusion" means and how it is used.

Sounds like more to the story. Vaguely passed it in yesterdays new I think.... suspect they went in mob handed because she has a history with kicking off at the police.