Steven P

Yup, that's true. If only Springsteens criticism of Trump wasn't captured on video and Trumps stroppy twatterings didn't happen you would of course be correct there, no record, it didn't happen.

Going back and keeping on target of what Springsteen did, rather than what Rosie or Ellen did (we can talk about them later if you like). He used free speech to criticise Trump... as is his right and in fact the right of us all... and Trump cannot handle it so he threatens Springsteen ('say that to my face and see what happens'), insults him and rubbishes him. All the acts of a dictator trying to shut down all critical words about Trump. End of the day it is another example of Trump unable to handle any criticism, he is surrounded by syncopates and is acting a bit like the emperor who has new clothes but no one dares to tell him he is wrong... cannot handle the truth you see. If he tour was called that my response would be more dignified and would not be lowered to insults.

Your trying distraction again Gareth, no one mentioned telling reporters to 'do one'. No, it is the demeaning of anything he doesn't like, the insults, the high profile "this organisation / person is worthless because they have an opposing opinion". Springsteen doesn't make a living reporting off Trumps actions and can exercise his rights of free speech to criticise Trumps actions without harm. Without free speech then you live in a dictatorship, so accept that no everyone will agree with you all the time and accept that these disagreements make for a better democracy... which Trump and his vanity cannot handle.

Gareth, have you ever listened to him talking to the press that don't report favourably to him? Shuts them down, as I mentioned above. Take some time out to really listen to him, maybe taking off the rose tinted glasses but he is trying to control the free press, the free speech, and Springsteen is just another example of this. If it doesn't fit the story he is telling (himself) us, then the organisation is 'discredited', 'failing', 'fake news'. I don't believe Springsteen has ever said he would do anything other than sell records, a lot of them granted, to make his money, there is no hypocrisy there. Trump is 'working for the working man' by manipulating the stock markets to make himself and his palls another few billions, leaving pensioners relying on the same markets worried, there is your hypocrisy. But anyway, you jump in and defend the man, someone has to. He isn't getting the opinion polls that he wants, so every little helps, you and his press secretary.

Behind the rant though is Trump trying to silence any criticism. Others have tried that before and generally history have judged them to be dictator types and generally poor leaders (Stalin would be the most notorious example, Kim Jong Un and his dad, numerous others). You can see how he talks to the press who ask him 'awkward' or searching questions "you should be ashamed of yourselves" "no wonder your press organisation is failing" - usually in capital letters. Trying to shut down any criticism and accountability. This never a good thing. Without scrutiny the leader can do what they want... which is essentially a dictatorship. Springsteen is another example of this, with the veiled threat at the end "would you say that to my face".... well, yes. The threat of a coward and a bully who does not have the mental ability to react otherwise. I see these as desperation, avoid all scrutiny at all costs, from a failing administration

Got a friend who worked for Milwaukee... once said that there are converters between batteries systems... though might be the sun and old age, I might be wrong, but it would be for the major makes so should be OK there. However, yes, it would be great if we could get interchangeable batteries. Quick google search looks like the converters are for tools where the batteries hang off the bottom of the tool like hand drill and not the good tools

End of the week, just wondering if anyone got in touch? (don't need to know details). If not a handy bump for this thread.

Might be the wrong thread, thinking of organising a golf trip, anyone up for it? thinking some sunshine and all that, Qatar anyone? Might not be the wrong thread after all (the news reports this week is Trump is planning a 5.5 billion investment golf course in Qatar, which half a chance will go bust like the others and the Qataris knowing this will pick it up for cheap. Wonder where this $400 million bung to take business there comes into it all). Of course after this jet has had $billion spent gutting it and rebuilding over the next 3 years... about the time the original Air Force One replacement will be delivered, it goes to Trumps 'Library' and becomes his to use as he wants. I also note that Trump has allowed AI chips to be sent outside of the US which is awfully lucky considering Saudi has just shown him the plans for the world largest AI training centre... so much for his rhetoric of US taking all the jobs and the fight he had with the tech giants over immigration, looks like he is shafting them bigly style; no immigration from this training centre to the US and the same centre will train the rest of the world leaving the US behind. US gets to sell $10 dollar chips though.

Free movement within the EU... but they are still living in Romania, Bulgaria and Poland, there wasn't a mass exodus, their countries aren't empty. Almost like that was a scare story and never was going to be true. Perhaps you are scared that the Poles et al have a better work ethic than you and they will get work ahead of you? Where as the UK outside of the EU has seen a mass influx of Migration from outside of Europe, from countries where there are fewer common values. 1 million approved migrants a year in a system set up by the government that brought you Brexit... all from outside of Europe. More immigrants after Brexit than before. Personally I'd take my chance on the Belgians, but we don't like them any more.

Exactly, all the people working together, free to go where they please, to work unrestricted in any country, to holiday unrestricted in any country and to trade unrestricted with any country. By way of example, the USA, an alliance of states, where all the people are working together, free to go where they please, to work unrestricted in any state, to holiday unrestricted in any state and to trade unrestricted with any state, and also one of the biggest and most stable economies of the world.

Suspect there might be strops happening with you voicing a rational opinion

But Liverpool girls have some class though.

Distraction, though there is time yet for Trump to realise the benefit of being out in PJs, the girls in Liverpool only go out in their best PJs, not their night time ones.

I'd be guessing that RF Kennedy will be pushing that vaccine though, affecting his core voters, bound to be OK.

Its a tan, Brian Jack from Georgia says so. This GOP Rep's Explanation To High Schoolers About Trump's Orange Complexion Is Very, Very Funny WWW.BUZZFEED.COM "These kids are going places."

Ahh, photoshop in the thread about the President accepting bungs (the airplane) from Qatar, the state he described as "funding terrorists"

So immigration into the nation that was built on immigration has dropped, is that the only good thing he has done? All the bluster and huffing he has made and that is all? And a $2000+ tax bomb on all Americans of course. Ignoring the 'look over there' comments, perhaps they would be better in the 'Labour' thread rather than the one about Trump.

Go on then, apart from his $2000+ dollar tax hike, errr, tariffs, what has Trump done that is good so far?

Oh, he is in the Newbury area (from his other post)

You're talking to the wrong bloke here, it's the Rapist-fan, JohnsonD who was showing interest in Saunders today and likewise he had a thing for Sturgeon a while back top - I don't think it was a sexual thing but you never know - so I reckon you are better off talking to him about that too? Don't think I have ever brought either of them up as a topic of conversation. Edity, Cause we all love a good edit. Suspect you are also trying to shift focus away from this threads headliner, throw in Saunders, throw in Sturgeon (not a US politician), and Salmond (likewise never been a US politician).Makes me think... what is it that you don't want us talking about? Trumpy and his bribes or baby Trumpy and the bungs he is taking (which incidentally dwarf Hunter Bidens....)

I have a feeling of living in a parallel universe, it was your pal, JohnsonD, who was talking about Saunders here, crying those crocodile tears of his that Trumpy, rapist in chief, is getting stick that his new jet is a bung from Qatar and trying to shift the focus. I never brought him up. So as we don't forget. Trump has been given a flying palace from Qatar, apparently no strings attached. I am sure that is all legit.

Oooh, boo hoo, your hero, rapist, and all time great guy, Trump is getting some stick for accepting a $400 million bribe from Qatar so you post "Don't look at that, look at this guy". No, a bribe is a bribe, and this one is bound to be bugged to death and comes with expectations from Qatar and a payback of more than that.. which the US population of course will suffer for.

Flying palace.... the security services would need to practically rebuild it to make sure there are no strange hidden microphones inside

You reap what you sow. As I implied, with you on the forum, it doesn't take long to descend to abuse.

Doesn't take long does it? Back to the usual vitriol, same stuck record, no discussions, no chat, only insults.