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That was for Oak and Elm. I mentioned that further down. I did not include beech in that. I also said in this thread that I’ve been making firewood out of very similar Beech logs. I’d not do that with Oak or Elm.

I like the way you think. Since you posted that comment I noticed the amount of tags he's added to this thread. Deffo something fishy going on here.

The sad fact is at £200 he'd be better off clogging them up for firewood.

I was thinking of filling ton bags. How much do you charge for them? I had really hoped to get on with the Cabin this summer but just no time for it just now. Been concentrating on other outdoor projects plus firewood production. Then the missus wanted a kitchen island and a breakfast bar last time I was home. Had my building warrant approved today for removing an internal structural wall between the kitchen and dining room so that will be on the cards soon. Then its a new kitchen to install. Never ends. I've a few new parts for the Logosol that I need to mill the beams so I think I'll make a start on molding them in September on rainy days. Ive 5 Sitka Trees to remove from the Cabin site, then I need to get a man in with a monster Stump Grinder to grind out all the stumps that where there. Then its prep for a cement pad, drainage, services etc. Ive 60 x 6" Beams drying though and the more dry they get stickered the less settling I'll have to deal with when I build the cabin. Silver linings and all that.

You location would help..... Fully seasoned Id expect to pay a minimum of £100 a cubic foot. So at least £200 if 2" thick although personally I'd not sell that cheap. You'll most likely have to pay for the other live edge you or the sawmill will cut off so expect to pay about another 1/4 to 1/3rd more than this. If it was me selling a 4.2m Oak or Elm Slab thats a minimum of 600mm wide (before cutting to your chosen width) and 2" thick Id want and would not sell for less than £500, and I think thats cheap.

Either of them smokers?

Ive a good extractor for the workshop and a dual bagger 3ph unit for when I start log molding for my Cabin.

I'm paying £45 a ton for stems like that just now. I was tempted to mill them as Im sure they'd have some stunning colours but I just clogged them for firewood. They look freshly felled and had the same colours as your logs. If thats the case then I doubt they are spalted.

There's a lot of truth in this. Not an easy pill for many to take though.

100%! We've not even felt the tip of the shafting we'll see this coming winter and beyond. Folk think saving is the answer the coming hard times, my in-laws for example. Its near on impossible to get them to understand that all their savings are being eroded at 10% a year just now. But they cant see it like that as they still have the same money in the bank. I keep telling them to convert their savings into Gold but they'll not have it.

I guess thats a fair comment. Interestingly our 9-10% inflation is the same as the USA. Clearly not Brexit driven.

Could do with some hyper inflation to make my mortgage virtually worthless and easy to pay off.

Perhaps he separated the logs? Doubt it though. The reality is the mix will be an improved burn for the householder but they wont see it that way and would just prefer hardwood.

And how many of her respiratory patients where in with sawdust related illnesses? I understand its a far more serious issue for Chippies working in an enclosed environment and dealing with the fine particulates sanding and planing generates but just dont see bandsaw sawdust being that much of an issue outside in the fresh air. I guess we can come back to this in 30 years time and see.

Exactly. Who knew if you complained slightly the workers just say donnt bother to pay me. I'll have to keep that one in mind.

Wa with you til you mentioned Brexit as a cause for inflation. 🙄

No one is suggesting just going in and helping yourself though. As there is a lot of wind blown up our way prices are relatively low. I had 30t of Beech delivered for the cost of transportation as they just needed rid and their own yard was already full. It’s why I’m getting almost sawlog quality beech for £45 a ton.

Im getting Hardwood Beech firewood logs at £45 a ton just now. All Windblown. Not sure how many 1m3 bags that lose fills but I think its not far off of 3.

I assume you’re talking Alaskan Milling and not Bandsaw Milling? If Alaskan Milling I’m sure some will pipe up with “buy Aspen”. It’s certainly an option but it’s eye wateringly expensive. Perhaps it’s a price worth paying for your health though? I’m not away to make the change though. I know it’s not great inhaling sawdust, some species are worse than others. Alaskan Milling should not really be producing saw dust or more accurately saw chips that fine. If you are then it’s time to sharpen the chain. Band Milling certainly produces fine sawdust though. But in all honesty I don’t wear a mask when milling with either the Alaskan or the Logosol and don’t intend to start either. 🤣

You location might help?

Thats what I said..... Its been mentioned in two previous posts. 🙄

Fence wire will be the most likely candidate. Or nails for a bird box etc.

Simple answer is those selling logs generally don’t have the space to store logs for 1-3 years. It’s as simple as that. Get them in a dryer and they’re done in a week. The pictures of your house shows a place brimming with firewood. That’s just for you. Now a company trying to run a business selling firewood, can you imagine the space needed to make that business viable air drying? Kiln drying does not need to mean it’s dried with hydrocarbons, this has now been mentioned in two previous posts. Kiln drying with waste produced by the process of making firewood is the way forward.

Then why bother with the thread? 🙄

I agree in principle but if you making the selling of logs your business model then you can hardly dedicate the huge amount of space needed to season logs for 2 years. You would need to kiln dry them to keep up with demand and also reduce the space required for storage. A local outfit uses the waste product from log processing to run his drying kiln. So in my opinion neither impatient , greedy nor wasteful. Im considering buying an insulated container to kiln dry logs along the same principles. Get 8-10 IBC's in there at a time. Burn all the Sawdust produced from my Milling and clogging up the logs as a way to heat the container and potentially Solar to run the Fans.