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To be fair ur probably right. Just having a bit of a vent at them But at moment and for the past 6 months or so sick of doing free work on hotel grounds ( shared drive) and getting no thanks or cash and esp so when there own FT live in groundsman who never bothers to help. Just when u drive past something everyday and never fixed u end up doing it yourself Had a few mornings clearing the drive of windblow in past few months alone so they can get guests in for a wedding, which to be fair i don't mind that much its when u get u no help from them that irritates me far more Just spent 1.5 days this week fixing potholes for them on they're ground as finally sick of driving over them and only a matter of time till someone breaks a spring, and even that 3hrs was fixing a blocked drain to get the water of the road that caused the damage in 1st place. I used to get up early before work and snow plough the drive too but recently So while i am trying to get them to pay for work possibly to my own trees, i have done plenty for them in the past just trying to get a wee touch back, and it would only be my time anyway Prob a good 2 hard days in them with the clear up single handed, just not got the time this year and esp when the ownership will be dubious. I did see they have burnt the bark of a sycamore that will be while just slightly further back, and still leaning towards the tanks and buildings. Which does say a lot burning rubbish within 10ft of LPG tanks I'm already taking a week off next month or so to proactively butcher a load of other healthy trees round 6 other nieghbours houses just to make sure no future danger/damage if anymore winds hit. Just takes time catching up with 20-30 years of neglect, esp when houses scattered all throu the wood.

Cheers dumper. Althou not really wanting to pay for a survey, not even sure if any tree surveyors in this area. Esp with the land there growing on possibly being debatable, i'd probably then need to pay for a land survey too. For me was just being pro active and see if it was unreasonable to ask the hotel to pay for my time since there the benifactor, The trees are only going to get bigger and grow towards the light ( over the tanks) so the problem isn't going to go away only get worse, althou it may never actually cause any harm. Must admit i would never have sited tanks under the trees in the 1st place should of felled them 1st and having a closer look yesterday the 1" pipe that connects the 2 tanks is not very sturdy at all and sits proud of the tanks, so any small mistake would likely bend/break it.

I think woodworks sums it up perfectly above, buy decent fuel, i almost never buy supermarket fuel and never run saws on it and mix in good quality 2 stroke. I do get a lot of problems with my quad and water in fuel, but just not using it enough so petrol sitting in it too long, not getting it serviced enough and no fuel stabiliser in fuel either and that was before the E10 change

Must admit i've switched back of v power? and onto E10, to early to tell a difference yet. I thought my 550 was 4 stroking a bit on the 99 octane stuff But i've heard all sorts, to be honest i think no one really has a clue about e5/10 and wot i means for saws. Semingly in usa petrols been e10 or more for years now and they will be running a lot of saws over there.

Alright Been a few threads about neighbours trees who pays etc. Long story short i own a bit of woodland around my house, nothing fancy but mainly maure or semi mature hardwoods. I share a boundry with a hotel, was down today patching some pot holes and having a blether with the handy man etc. I had a wee wander round from where i was working and the hotels 2x 1000L LPG tanks and looked above there was some sycamore and a couple of ash growing out towards them. The trees all look healthy, at moment ash die back has only just started up here, so no imminant threat yet. But after these recent storms i've been looking at some of my trees in a new light and anything near a neighbour is getting either felled or reduced/topped depending on species etc. With this in mind i would say the 3 or 4 trees would be better gone, but they will be a pita even with a spider lift and any logs will be a nightmare to get out from there too, and be a good few ton. I think i will likely own the trees, but not 100% i know in the past the previous owners had a boundry dispute with them over these tanks which went on for years as they thought they were on wot will be my ground now. But on my title deeds it just says undefined, so not much good Now for simplicity say i do own the trees, but there is no obvious defects health risks, so no real urgent reason to come down. and i really don't care if they come down or not apart from the work involved Is it the sort of thing u could ask the hotel to pay for my time even just the sectioning down or felling?? I realise i'm asking them to pay for me to fell my own trees but its not benefitting me if they come down or stay up As if i was the hotel i would not be wanting them growing like that so close to gas tanks. Or is it just a case of swallow the extra work up myself? And be thankful i can do it myself. The hotel are generally useless at ground maintanence, drains are never fixed and water often runs down the road until i fix it, they still have a great big broken beech top hung up on the main road too and never done owt with it yet. And still have customers driving below it I think i can remember other threads where neighbours have paid to cut down a neighbours tree to increase there light etc, but i take it it is just a casual agreement and no set rule if the neighbour is the 1 getting the benefit. Cheers and i hope it makes sense

No doubt, but nowadays often if the land owner/forestry company its a case of 'puter say's NO' 😀 No doubt just an asre covering/box ticking thing, but at the same time if u don't have a 'good old boy' to show u all the old timers tricks training is the only way to go. To be honest none of it is rocket science and common sense is th most important thing with a tiny bit of hand/eye/saw bar coordination

I would double check the lantra thing, i may be out of date, but it certainly was the case they had expiries on the tickets. The reason i kknow is on the local estate the new forestry management company wanted everyone to have saw tickets, was a load of auld retired boys that played about tidying trees up for the fire wood. Them and a few estate staff all done the lantra ticket at local college ( who also do nptc) and the forestry company wouldn't accept them, about 8 folk had payed for a worthless ticket

I'd be wary of the lantra courses, things may have changed in recent times but some forestry companies don't recognise them, which may not be a big issue for u. The other thing with lantra tickets is they have ( or did have) a 5 yr expiry date on them Nptc don't.. i dont think n arb they have the 5yr training thing they now have on commercial forestry/fisa sites, but if u don't change carear for the next ffew yearrs no point in ur ticket running out and needing to redo it The things covered on both courses will be almost identical anyway, unless thing have changed i would pay the extra for nptc tickets. As an aside, can u mix and match tickets? if u started of with ur basic cross cut/main + small fell lantra can u then do an nptc say med trees or climbing??

Or just a pigs ear?? Would u be better not just throwing the Fo8 away and descending on the friction knot perfectly safe and climbers being doing it for decades And if u hurt 1 hand it would make a 1 handed descend ackward i'd imagine. I don't care wot tickets u get but just get someone knowledgeable to give u a few hints and wot kit u really need. A lot of kit ( and not just in tree climbing) is a bit like a fly hook, often designed more to catch the angler than any fish. Good luck anyway

I thought he was descending on both at same time a Fo8 and a blakes for back up, but i may have misunderstood?

Aye and all these modern tractors are nice fancy curved glass so u have no option but an expensive factory glass option. Althou to be fair hard to guard every window and still have visibility. We broke the bottom door glass on a valmet a while back, easy done

To be fair tickets don't make a jot of difference but good training does!! And listening/taking in the training And like someone said to fall out of the tree he must of been breaking 1 rule My mates dad is the best hard wood cutter in our area, never had a ticket or wore any PPE in his life and now in his 70's and still felling/cutting firewood. But he will have been trained by the old timers that shown him how to do it. There is a big difference just starting using a chainsaw/climbing with no training even off a decent climber casually. As i've said not the best climber myself but never heard of anyone combining a blakes and Fo8 for descent before. I take it ur also climbing solo with no rescue climber? Also where u not arguing with experienced climbers a while back about step cuts? I thought u were claiming they were pointless

That looks some bit of kit. Does no one bother forestry guarding tractors now? Seen another couple of photos of crane tractors and no roof /cab/bonnet guarding? And are u not worried u get a branch throu the roof window? Be bloody handy when ur squeezing under BT cables thou. Final question, wots the benefit of the jake mount over roof mounting? ( i persume it is a jake mount?) I can't imagine many folk ever take them off with the jake mount or is it a stability thing with the weight lower down

Like i've said previously and others ur insurance will be over the moon taking money of u year after year with no claims. The instant u have an accident and want to claim i'd be absolutely amazed if they pay out when u are not deemed a 'competant' person. I'm actually surprsised many landowners let u on now, without showing some competancy purely for their own liability/insurance By the time u've bought some of the gadets u have that aren't needed would of paid a fair bit to training U don't have to speak to many folk who work in forestry or arb to hear of a few near misses or horror stories. So dangling up a tree with a saw and no escape routes, esp when ur not familar with how different timbers behave as ur cutting If i was in ur shoes i'd tell the land owner to stick his hand in his pocket and hire a cherry picker for 1 wknd and blitz all these dodgy trees. I hope i am wong, and mibee at ur age u will be more sensible than me when i 1st started climbing U are asking for trouble, don't get me wrong i've taken and still take risks but i balance them with my training and experience and i also know when to walk away and get someone else in or more heavy/specialised machinery While i may not consider myself a good climber i am safe, if slow, but have climbed and watched some very good climbers which u can learn a lot from, and i have done a few tricky takedowns too, althou they have taken me a while, But end of day i'm safe and no damage done, which is all that matters really at end of day. As said i'm generally against a lot of modern training but i have to admit all the chainsaw courses i've done have been well worth it, and i have learn a lot esp on the basic 1's as i never knew how little i knew despite being around saws for years

I would ask advice from a better climber than me, but it just seems quite confusing to me mixing up ascenders/descenders and Fo8's combined with friction hitches,unless ur switching from DRT to SRT. I imagine u'd be better just sticking with a friction hitch to go up and down on Even using cabimum savers, apart from on my course i don't think i've evr seen 1 used or know anyone who has used 1. I know it will be best practice if doing a lot of moving about tina tree doing reductions etc, but most of my cli,bing was on railways 20 odd year ago so every tree was spiked up and 1 side butchered of it the quickest way possible. Know a few lads doing power line clearance and there much the same to be honest Just keep it simple. For a hobby limber that doesnt like gimmicks u do seem to have quite a few I'd double check ur insurance but i doubt it will cover u if something goes wrong and u put a branch throu a buildings roof as ur not trained. So i take it u free spike up into the tree before tying in?? Ur body/life but really ur just asking for trouble, only takes 1 slip, broken branch and ur decking out. Everyones different but u wouldn't catch me climbing trees now even if someone was paying me, bugger doing it for nowt. I do a few for myself now but only cos i grudge paying someone else, and to be fair the last few have been very tricky to close to power lines, most companies would walk away or charge a fortune

I'm generally not someone who's always telling folk to get tickets, but in ur case i do really think u should be doing some sort of climbing training. Have u any chainsaw tickets?? If the majority of ur trees are near buildings and assuming they need climbed u obviously have targets near by u don't want to be dropping branches/tops on, getting ur basic tickets should be a must, surprised most folk allow u to do the work without asking for tickets. The basic tickets probably wouldn't answer this question as how safe a dead/rotten/diseased tree is is an experience thing, and better to learn fron othrs experiences than ur own if it goes wrong. Ecven felling these dead/diseased trees from the deck can tell u a lot as some species will just crumble/explode /shatter when they hit the deck, i certainly wouldn't like to be up 1 taking bits off If something goes wrong how would ur insurance cover u? Most insurances want/expect u to be trained and certified to atleast the basic level But atleast it would give u a genral idea about safe methods of work etc, I dunno if u have worked with throwlines at all? But if u wanted ur line up the 2nd tree in this instance u could probably do it all from the deck with a throwline and no need to climb it. When i done my training they had just outlawed screw gate carbs for the triple lock 1's and i'm pretty sure ascenders/descenders were fairly new, i wouldn't have a scooby how to use them, definately never shown in the course all those years ago i think ur over complicating things, not a good thing if u are not 100% on the basics . Also be wary of tieing/climbing on the Blake's hitch, i used to climb on 1 and really liked it, but i also remember if u tie it slightly wrong its called a suicide knot, it looks just like a blakes and even acts like 1 until it just lets go. Been that long since i tied a Blake's i've gave up using them incase i get tie wrong. Can't remember which way it is now but tail either goes in front or behind but only 1 way works, so i thought why risk it when other methods work just fine Must admit i'm back to a prussick now which does fine for the little climbing i do nowadays

U could also put ur rope up the other tree with a throwline or ladder or even climb it and come back down leaving ur rope up to save u monkey swinging across. Its always far harder than it looks, even when i was younger and climbing more it took a lot of confidence/bollocks to really go for it

Are those alu mels not funny ackward things? Only used 1 a couple of times but the head was so massive u losing about 6" of swing every hit. is there benefits over a normal mel of the same wieght? Must admit i do lik the normal mels with a fibre glass shaft No dobt the seceret to easy meling is a decent bloke on the pinch in front of u.and a beer/juice crate is a godsend if ur a bit 'vertically challenged . In the past 5ft post were the standard when everybody melled them in by hand, that extra 6" in height does make a difference getting on top of them

I thought in another thread ur brother didn't think it was worth getting out of bed for less than 600 quid a day, labour only. There is some boys local to me milling and they're working hard and not making anything like the money u claim. Same with the firewood business, i have far too much firewood about me, but the thought of selling it for the going rate after i've felled, logged and hand split the timber and possibly moved it a couple of times, just not worth selling for the money i'd get. I probably live in an area where arb rates are pretty low and not an awful lot of arb companies just not a lot of money in area, and even commercial forestry rates are quite low ( bloody only place in the country where heaps of hand cutters still on the go) but people just aren't going to pay a lot of money for arb work. U can only price wot the area can stand. If u think arb is bad look into agriculture, couple of years ago i was helping out a fencing company but most of the other lads where only on about 10 quid an hour SE, fair enough no tools, van etc and getting there 5 days in a week as many hours as they want. But still not a lot to get ur holidays off, by time tax is off ur only £8 an hour and no holiday or sick pay. I do think the minimum wage is too high, some of the useless numpties u see i'd hate to be paying them the minimum wage, bloody hell some paying with chocolate buttons would be too much. But i also think in the last 20 years the cost of living has went throu the roof, everyone has mobiles now, £10++, internet 25 quid, sky 25+++,a month, all bills that didn't even exist 20 years ago, if ur into fancy phons and full sky package u could be £150 a month before u even start with normal expenses cars etc. I know i have never worked as hard and getting paid a wage i'm happy with yet never quite know where it all goes. When i was younger it was all 4/5 night wknds every week, and even some big school nights when working away from home and u still always had money in ur pocket and saving some too Living is dear now

Wot sort of money ( ball park, as i realise be a fair it of variation depending on tractor type/crane size) does it cost to roof mount a crane on a valmet? Do people not bother to forestry guard them so much anymore? Seen a few picks online of some cracking looking set ups but no guarding round the cab

I would agree with that, looks like a major stem has already snapped off. It might actually be a bigger risk than the tree ur concerned about, being ash pre ADB could have lasted for yonks, seen far worse stand for years Dunno if Dieback is as far up country as lankarkshire yet? I'm only 20 odd mile below u and starting to see far more signs of it all over the place. But being in a garden it is as well down. By rights thou u would probably need a bat inspection on it as as someone else said likely to be prime bat habitat. Wether u could leave it as a pole to save some bat bird nesting habitat? But more expensive to do that than fell and u will then have a protected habitat in ur garden limiting any future work to tree. Ash can stand like that for years or decades, infact it shows how little strength the middle of the hinge gives for felling cuts, mess up the side of a hinge it could go anywhere, do wot ever u want in middle as long as sides are good and complete control

I must admit i have went to the high octane fuel since this E10 thing came about, but a few boys are saying it really is not good for saws. Not 100% but i do think my 550 is 4 stroking more since i went to fancy fuel So thinking of going back to the cheap fuel, sitting about is not an issue as going throu 20+ litres most weeks. Ironically starting to use the high octyane in my quad as it has ran terribly for years now as not used so much anymore and has problems with water in the fuel, so going to start using E5+ a stabiliser

I was under the impression the above was not the case. i have been looking into this as i have trees on my ground, but most of the insurance sites state that it is not the tree owners insurance but the house holders if landed on. They claim of their own and don't then claim of urs like u do for car insurance. By rights the way i read it the neighbours insurance should pay for the work and then give u the timber back if u want it. It did seem a funny situation to me

The only 2 stories i have about autos and going downhill are probably more due to bad drivers. The 1st 1 i was in queenstown in NZ, drinking with some mates and 1 who is a scottish mechanic living out there now. He stopped some backpackers 1 day in a wee auto hire car, that area of NZ has some very steep and long hills, said u could smell and almost see the brakes glowing as they were coming down hill. In those days u just had a 1st and 2nd gear on an auto The second would be the 2 winters of heavy snow and -10 temps ( think in about 10-11ish) i was out working my dogs most days on a big fancy shoot as frozen off work. Just typical small windy single track country roads up and down hills, they were like a sheet of glass. Quite often the guns would want to take their own 4x4s, but often ur fancy mercs and bmw's with road tyres, they usually had to crawl back by 11's to get a proper 4x4. But just same again no engine braking coming down a hill touching brakes and going skating

Aye i done a bit of googling and think it is the pressure switch, alwys he way when u need something thou