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Mheh.... Acts of Parliament, “laws”..... What do they mean.... Just have a riot and smash up some Rozzer vehicles. That seems to be the new “will of the people” 😂

This is a more detailed piece than that presented by RHS. https://www.trees.org.uk/Trees.org.uk/files/d7/d73bbf00-b534-42bf-a417-17f5055c2ab3.pdf RHS advice on burying a barrier is somewhat vague and lacking detail since you’d need to know the extent of the subterranean rhizomorphs for it to be effective. “…Stumps which cannot be dug out can, if access allows, be chipped or ground out with a machine designed for the purpose (see under Tree Work in the /Yellow Pages). Large unchipped pieces, particularly of the roots, often remain. These should be dug out. The efficacy of these measures depends entirely on the thoroughness with which infected material is removed or destroyed: the larger and more numerous the remaining fragments, the greater and more prolonged the risk of reinfection. The mixture of chips and soil which remains after stump chipping probably constitutes little danger as a Honey fungus source but if it is not removed, replanting should be delayed for 12 months or until no rhizomorphs are to be found in the mixture. If you know or suspect that larger buried segments of root remain after chipping or excavation, delay planting trees or shrubs within 30 yards of the excavation for at least 2 years, longer if possible. Annuals may be safely grown on the site meanwhile. Alternatively, replant with resistant species..”

I've pulled the topic of stump grinding away from your thread to stop it getting cluttered but you might like to look in here if it gains traction:

Maybe of interest or provide some interesting comment. If you had a HF colonised tree, would you recommend stump grinding to prevent the spread to nearby trees or not?

Without wishing to muddy the waters (😂) You may have inadvertently started (another) sub discussion about the potential pros v cons of stump grinding in relation to the prevention of spread of honey fungus 😳 Id question whether stump grinding would be an effective means of preventing the potential for HF to spread to nearby trees. If it has a nutritional source within the existing stump, it may just stay there whereas if you remove that nutritional source (by grinding it out) it is compelled to seek sustenance elsewhere. Ive never been able to get a firm discussion / conclusion on this subject (even after asking Guy) but if I quote from the field guide: ”....can spread from stumps and roots to surrounding trees particularly if there is a lack of natural suppression in the form of fallen deadwood colonised by other fungi performing naturals suppression...” So if you retain the original ‘food’ source and retain a good deadwood pile, is that more or less likely to encourage translocation to nearby trees? That’s the fuse lit 💣 😂

Cnuts the lot of ‘em! PC Zoom meeting tonight - I’m home early to prepare my disruptive questioning 😂 Nov PC voted 0% Parish precept increase. Council tax statements issued last week showed 1.3% rise (that’s parish precept - county was 3.99, PCC 6, adult social care 2 etc,etc) There’s ‘ell on in the parish and all set for a right ding-dong 😂 You think Brizzol was bad? There’ll be lynching mobs in St Cleer tonight 😂😂

WATCH | Commentator Shares First-Hand Account Of Bristol Riots 999STORIESFROMTHEFRONTLINE.COM Seb Whitehouse gives an accurate rundown of what happened outside Bridewell Police Station in his nine...

£5k fine - non refundable 😂

Reality somewhere in between? The overwhelming vast majority of outraged (but decent) folk popped off home as the sun set. The hard core fwits (those that I originally highlighted) were intent on premeditated riot and lawlessness. The hashtag for the amorphous mass that rallied here was “kill the bill.” It would be grossly naive to assume that the double meaning of that wasn’t intentionally inflammatory. What are the old bill meant to do? Watch?

Am I even really seeing that? The pacifist, docile, peaceful and reasonable behaviour of the attendees changed to lawlessness, destruction and violence because of Police intervention? And you’re giving that angle bandwidth because that’s what is reported on an anarchist webpage... Okaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

It’s not an Antifa article Mark, it’s from the Anachists Federation - who do, it seems, have a website. Which is a bit odd given their apparent objection to the sort of capitalist mechanisms that gave rise to the WWW and the ‘tech’ required to sustain it. I guess they are able to swallow large portions of their own blatant hypocrisy in order to draw the giro from the very institutions of ‘government’ they so vociferously opposed? Who knows? Each to their own 😁

That’s not how AF are spinning it Mark. See how far you can get through the attached article without laughing...... What actually Happened in Bristol – and How a Narrative is Built AFED.ORG.UK

Open (active) or closed (no new burials) cemetery Jay? Looks to be a closed cemetery. Some interesting additional considerations apply to cemetery trees and the status of the cemetery (open or closed.) Was it a LA contracted job?

This probably expresses it more fully: Bristol rioters were 'serial demo attenders' from outside city intent on violence, mayor says APPLE.NEWS The rioters who set police vehicles alight and attacked officers were "serial demo attenders" intent on violence against...

Impressive array of hardware on display there lux! Laying on the chipper infeed though, didn’t dwell on that pic for long 😳

Events unfolding in Brzzol Mark, that’s kind of the point I was trying to put across earlier. Scenes like wasson in Brizzol are not going garner support for opposition to the proposed legislative changes. We may well be moving inexorably closer to the point where civil unrest takes a firmer and wider grip. There are enough recent examples of the domino effect when this sort of behaviour features on the news. Having read the article JD posted earlier I’d be surprised if Brum doesn’t go off soon.

In a “closed” community, particularly in a confined area, how could ‘other parties’ not be at least aware - probably complicit. Hopefully there’ll be sufficient appetite for a case of secondary liability for at least the nearest neighbours perhaps the entire ‘settlement.’ Certainly doesn’t help disavow the stereotype. Secondary Liability: charging decisions on principals and accessories | The Crown Prosecution Service WWW.CPS.GOV.UK

Well, yes. HS2, Sheffield street trees, Newbury bypass, Greenham Common, Faslane ‘peace’ camp.... Trouble is, if it is a lawful activity it is lawful because our government and laws have made it so. Whatever the passion of the protest cause - and the apathy of the masses - ‘protest’, when it becomes obstruction, is unlawful. On a very small scale, I’ve had exactly that kind of (attempted) obstruction on a site clearance. It was all perfectly kosher but a neighbour objected and got in the way. Funnily enough he delighted in telling me he used to be a magistrate. I delighted even more in telling him if he didn’t foxtrot oscar I’d have absolutely no hesitation in removing him from the private property work site (for his own safety) and inviting the Rozzers to attend and re-brief him 😂

You know I’m no fan of centrally imposed government Mark. The prospective new measures are (or should be) a cause for alarm to (what I think is) the vast majority of those with any inclination towards lawful protest. The trouble is, things evolve and those with a mind to push the boundaries of lawfulness will do just that. Take XR MO for example. At the point where one person’s right to lawful protest prevents another person from going about their lawful business we find ourselves with a situation where those that seek to exercise their rights impinge upon the rights of others - you see the dichotomy I’m sure. We’re probably closer to being on the same page than might immediately be apparent 👍🏻

Rumour has it the town and parish stocks are being readied for any "strangers" that might start sneaking in before lock down is eased...

OK I'll take the bait.... I know you're not that obtuse. There are those - ranging from aunt Molly to Sid the Nazi that have (currently) an absolute right to protest regardless of how engaged / sympathetic, or otherwise, the 'rest of us' might be with their cause. That is just a matter of the reality we live in. There is also a quantifiable mass of anti establishment / anarchist / new hippy / dead legs that float between any public protest, regardless of the cause, with the premeditated intention of sparking, contributing to and/or amplifying lawlessness and criminality. That is the cohort I was being critical of - but you absolutely knew that already treacle... I'm (probably / almost) as concerned as you probably are with the potential for new restrictions on the right to protest but I'm not constrained by thinking it is only 'unjust' for the type of protest that I might be sympathetic too - it has to apply equally to all regardless of how personally disinterested one might be in the subject of the protest.

Datestamp on that pic Mark? I take your point of course, I’m not sure you grasped mine though.... Your pic doesn’t really highlight a cohort that moves from 1 protest group to another without any apparent ‘loyalty’ to what ever the cause actually is.

Not really, I’m just “tight” and the threat of losing deposit / holiday or incurring additional expense is probably the greatest influencing factor. I’d doff my cap to your reference to my world view though. If the glorious Empire still controlled great swathes of the globe maybe the rest of the world wouldn’t be in such a shambles 😂

I still can’t make head nor tale of the order of the posts (can’t really be bothered to re-read it all in some sort of order) and, I found I was just skim reading the OPs lengthy and rather garbled posts.... On reflection - IF - we take all the hassles described by the OP at face value - AND - the LA has (for whatever reason) been intransigent and (as appears to be interpreted by the OP) unreasonable, then the net result will almost inevitably be loss or damage to that which has been deemed worthy of retention. That’s human nature. It’s a lose lose end game. Id like to retract my previous criticism of the OP and submit a “no comment” replacement 😂 If they feel they’ve been backed into a corner then they must do what they feel justified and live with the potential consequences.

Just pulling ya chain mucker. I wouldn’t apply my previous caveat to all attendees at a protest / demo but I’m sure we’d agree, regardless of the authenticity of the protest cause - there is always “that” small element which infiltrates and exploits a scenario to further their own nefarious (usually Marxist / anarchist) cause - regardless of how just or noble the original cause. It’s them I was referring to, not the majority, well intentioned, decent but outraged aunty Marge at the Poll tax riots.