Daniël Bos

Then allow me to refresh your memory, or educate you a little: Contemporary American Christian terrorism can be motivated by a violent desire to implement a*Reconstructionist*or*Dominionist*ideology.[103]*Dominion Theology insists that Christians are called by God to (re)build society on Christian values to subjugate the earth and establish dominion over all things, as a pre-requisite for the second coming of Christ.[104]*Political violence motivated by dominion theology is a violent extension of the desire to impose a select version of Christianity on other Christians, as well as on non-Christians. After 1981, members of groups such as the*Army of God*began attacking*abortion clinics*and*doctors*across the United States.[105][106][107]*A number of terrorist attacks were attributed by*Bruce Hoffman*to individuals and groups with ties to the*Christian Identity*and*Christian Patriot*movements, including the Lambs of Christ.[108]*A group called*Concerned Christians*was deported from Israel on suspicion of planning to attack holy sites in*Jerusalem*at the end of 1999; they believed that their deaths would "lead them to heaven".[109][110] Eric Robert Rudolph*carried out the*Centennial Olympic Park bombing*in 1996, as well as subsequent attacks on an abortion clinic and a*lesbian*nightclub.*Michael Barkun, a professor at Syracuse University, considers Rudolph to likely fit the definition of a Christian terrorist. James A. Aho, a professor at Idaho State University, argues that religious considerations inspired Rudolph only in part.[111] Terrorism scholar Aref M. Al-Khattar has listed*The Covenant, The Sword, and the Arm of the Lord*(CSA),*Defensive Action, the*Montana Freemen, and some "Christian militia" as groups that "can be placed under the category of far-right-wing terrorism" that "has a religious (Christian) component".[112] In 1996 three men—Charles Barbee, Robert Berry and Jay Merelle—were charged with two bank robberies and bombings at the banks, a*Spokane*newspaper, and a*Planned Parenthood*office in*Washington State. The men were anti-Semitic*Christian Identity theorists*who believed that God wanted them to carry out violent attacks and that such attacks would hasten the ascendancy of the*Aryan race.[113] In 2011, analyst Daryl Johnson of the*United States Department of Homeland Security*said that the*Hutaree*Christian*militia movement*possessed more weapons than the combined weapons holdings of all Islamic terror defendants charged in the US since the*September 11 attacks.[114] In 2015, Robert Doggart, a 63 year old mechanical engineer, was indicted for solicitation to commit a civil rights violation by intending to damage or destroy religious property after communicating that he intended to amass weapons to attack a Muslim enclave in*Delaware County, New York.[115]*Doggart, a member of several private militia groups, communicated to an FBI source in a phone call that he had an*M4 carbine*with "500 rounds of ammunition" that he intended to take to the Delaware County enclave, along with a handgun,*molotov cocktails*and a machete. The FBI source recorded him saying "if it gets down to the machete, we will cut them to shreds."[116]Doggart had previously travelled to a site in*Dover, Tennessee*described in chain emails as a "jihadist training camp", and found that the claims were wrong. Doggart pleaded guilty in an April*plea bargain*stating he had “willfully and knowingly sent a message in interstate commerce containing a true threat” to injure someone. The plea bargain was struck down by a judge because it did not contain enough facts to constitute a true threat.[117][118]*Doggart stood as an independent candidate in*Tennessee's 4th congressional district, losing with 6.4% of the vote.[119]*None of the charges against him are terrorism related.[120][121][122][123] The November 2015*Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood shooting, in which three were killed and nine injured, was described as "a form of terrorism" by Colorado Governor*John Hickenlooper.[124]*The gunman, Robert Lewis Dear, was described as a "delusional" man[125]*who had written on a*cannabisinternet forum*that "sinners" would "burn in hell" during the*end times, and had also written about smoking marijuana and propositioned women for sex.[126][127]*He had praised the*Army of God, saying that attacks on abortion clinics are "God's work."[128]*Deer's ex-wife said he had put glue on a lock of a Planned Parenthood clinic, and in court documents for their divorce she said "He claims to be a Christian and is extremely evangelistic, but does not follow the Bible in his actions. He says that as long as he believes he will be saved, he can do whatever he pleases. He is obsessed with the world coming to an end." There's plenty more by the way... As for your last comment, Trump has acted against the very constitution he's bound to serve only this week. And who or what I am, concerns you not. As for losing the argument? I made a statement, you then pleaded ignorance and thus I've lost the argument? I think maybe you should go find a nice Dr, or a mirror or maybe find some help with family or friends as you appear to be dillusional.

I agree, the vast majority (by over 99%) of crimes against Americans are committed by people that call themselves Christians. Including trump.

Seems like we might be witness to it now.

Do you not think such moves create division to such a degree that it truly becomes about "us, against them" which can only serve to radicalise. You've become radicalised, and an american teenage muslim who'd been fine just being an american and also a person of religion is far more likely to believe the vileness of the likes of is-is when the president of his own country demands he registers as a muslim, or people that happen to follow a belief system are no longer welcome in his country for that. Now, he'll be a marked person, no longer an american first, but a registered muslim, singled out because of his faith. Would it not make sense that this person would rebel against such oppression, and may well follow the advice of those highly influential recruitment videos the muslim radicals awash the interwebs with. Subtly and specifically targeted to crawl into the mind of young people, plant the seed of unfairness and nurture that emotion into hatred. Trump is adding fertiliser and water to this hatred. As far as presidency candidates, it's more likely you and I become engaged in a romantic relationship than that Wilders becomes president of the Netherlands. Le Pen, not so sure.

That article is rationalisation of a pre-existing viewpoint, not reason. Yes, under the Obama administration those particular countries were marked as being of potential concern, and people travelling from them should come under stricter scrutiny before being allowed into the USA. But to ban all citizens from these countries does not do that, rather the opposite. It places no extra scrutiny on any individuals, it presumes that any person hailing from them is a high security threat. As pointed out by the OP, and by the fact the previous government did not act in such a divisive, contrary and discriminatory fashion, this ban makes no sense whatsoever. Nor does that article. It's well written, but chooses only those facts that support the pre-existing viewpoint of the author. It does not look at the full range of facts to form a reasonable argument thereafter.

That depends on the generator, does the OP want to use it with a genny?

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They could say that now...?

So those 4.8% are going to fill in the jobs vacated by foreign workers? There's simply not enough of them! That is, if those 4.8% would be willing, or could be forced to take these jobs in the first place, not something that seems very likely. Anyway, these are all speculation. How things will actually work (or not work) is dependent on so many variables (a lot of which haven't been decided) that we're all just shooting in the dark.

Or: it would create a massive labour shortage. Immigrants fill nearly a fifth of the UK's unskilled labour jobs. If there were natives willing to do the same job for the same money, they'd be welcome. "kicking out unskilled immigrants" would create big issues in food production, healthcare and hospitality to name a few. The only way to increase the appeal for UK born unskilled labour would be a massive increase in wages, which would impact on the cost of living in a significant way.

Or, in the words of Tom Paine: Arguing with those that have renounced the use of reason, is like administering medicine to the deceased.

http://www.richardcorbett.org.uk/long-list-leave-lies/ Pot, kettle...

Wasn't meant to be aggressive, apologies if it comes across so. I think the problems are more likely to be with the goods, not the people. If/when the UK and EU are going tarriff mad.

To stop you acting like a dick in your car, there's a law. But more importantly, there is a police department specifically for road safety, there's infrastructure that's taken many years and many billions to build up. There is no such thing for the land border?

Ireland has free movement of people and trade with Europe. So, any you're-a-peein' person and or goods would have a free way in and out of the UK unless there were border controls?

Bad beer memory

"people like me"? Does that mean immigrants, foreigners that take British wives, people with dark skin, Muslims, feminists, greenies, leftists? Who am I? I never mentioned anything about exchange rates? I countered your opening statement with a solid fact, your further statements with more fact, and then ignored your counter-counter because I was bored of arguing with you. The fact you see your opinion as "pointing out how stupid my comments are" says a lot. Though nothing one wouldn't expect to hear from you I suppose. In what way was the UK "the top performing economy in 2016 "?

That wasn't an insult, just my opinion. My earlier comment was an insult, though the fact you missed it is rather poignant.

Apologies happily accepted. Jomoco-land has a trade deficit of some 40Bn, which makes that less per capita than the UK though...

1 yes, but for that to happen there would have to be a market (the EU may well impose import tariffs?) and globally, Britain is no longer a manufacturing country. 2. Maybe, but only if 1 works, and earlier discussion on here didn't give the impression of people willing to buy British unless the price was right. 3. Brexit, and the implications of visas, tighter borders and a nation where people like yourself live would surely mean the opposite. 4. Means nothing whilst financial markets are shying away from London in favour of EU bases. I've no desire to inspire you with anything. In my opinion you are a vile critter.

The Netherlands has a massive trade surplus? Not sure what you mean?

Matelot, once again, your debating skills and eloquence confirm you were educated far beyond your intelligence. Britain bought 12 Billion pounds worth of good more than Britain sold last year. A weak pound is not a good thing...

Trade deficit of some 12 Billion of y'r britbucks mean anything?

Scaffold poles are quite easy to bend, presumably because it's preferred to snapping? But it's definitely not a good idea to make a rops out of.

Excellent! Thanks Steve