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that would be a good idea, as in general i look at a krab and a see a krab not much sense in reading lots of tiny small print!! I,m strating to get the hang of them, the problem now is switching between the two types of 3 way all the time

i bought some for my replacement hitch climber....i didnt notice that the gates open with an initail push down rather than push up action like most tri locking krabs on the market....so far not 100% sure if i like em....though the action is smooth and when the gate is on the left i.e the right way up on my set up they are nice and easy,,, but when the gate is on the right its a little tricky. guess i just need to practice but find it strange that they have chosen this method of opening over the traditional tri locking gate.

agree, these things are great, i have a right foot one, but like puching down on top of my right foot with my left ala foot lock style, as i found with lots of use it can lead to bit of extra strain on one leg, when i get some more free cash i'll buy a left foot one so i can swap around, also anyone checked out the frog walker set up? some cool stuff on you tube.

hats off to all who competed, the level at which all of these guys and gals reach to compete at this level takes commitment and all credit is due to those who come out on top. (unless they are spawny enough to be that good with out trying in which case )

Before you commit try and get some experience with a company to let you get an idea if it is right for you, though from your back ground it sounds like this shouldnt be a problem. By all means get a ticket such as an ND HND etc... the ND's are more practical in my opinion, and holding such a ticket will open up a lot more doors to you than just the NPTCs.... The tree industry is growing more and more competitive, so the ND and any other qualifications will give you an advantage when looking for work Also if you go in with the mind that you aint planning to make your fortune, that its more of a life style choice, then you wont be disappointed.

not even if i want too??? could be good....

i'm having rouble getting hold of decent throwline, the last two i cant even rember the make, i think one was edelrid, one snapped as soon as you starte pulling your rope up, and the one i have now generates so much friction that even with a heavy bag its tricky to get it to drop down, especialy on large limbs or thick bark, e.g oaks any adviceo on a good one? i relise the error of my ways is buying the cheapest one in the shop.....but then i figured its just a throwline.....

just trying to get to grips with my tree motion, the back is so comfy itsx like wearing an old slipper, i have shortened the bridge coniderably and so far i like it when using my Knut or VT, its just the leg straps,,, they dont feel comfy on the inside of my thigh. I was wondering if repositioning the elastic straps would help this? as i'm not 100% sure if all the holes along the bootom edge of the back support are there for gear loops or for allowing the elastic straps to be moved. i have noticed on a lot of vids of people using the tree motion that they have a small rope bag clipped to it for their secondry strop tail to be tucked into, which bag, make size, etc is this if any one knows? cheers as always

imori comes in funkier colours than poison ivy........... coz thats dead important

learn as many as possible, and try them out, its also good to be able to tie a variety for different purposes and depending on what kit you have, the prussic is classic and is always good to know as is knowing how to tie a whole system just using one rope, even when move away from the basics its these basics that you can always fall back on to get you out of a tricky spot.

majestic i think we have just discovered what you can do with your tree runner when you get bored of it....that is one tough piece of kit!

James, i'll PM you as i it will take too much space, Majestic, My issue is slightly budget based hence why the stein isnt on the agenda, though maybe it will be...may have to sell a few things...Ashdown 300watt bass Stack 1X2X10" + 1x15" cabs 300 quid anyone.... I like the stein have used it, works almost too well...The tree runner just looks so simple and seeing as i said before i have to at times work with people who arent clued up on rigging its almost fool proof to set up....though the Stein in my mind looks more versatile...... sod it i'm going to flip a coin, heads tree runner, tails stein rc .... .... ... ah this foreign coin has neither...any one got 10p??? Josharb87.... where abouts you based in Sweden?

James as in door knocking, 2cv driving, 'your mum' James? Its Tom mate, the tall good looking one from your course

so what your are saying is, the stein can take upto 2000kg of force over the tree runners 500kg?

also the treerunner has been available for at least the last two years if not longer over here from Skogma, who get all their stuff from Germany, i was put off with the tree runner because a lot of the climbing kit under their name i have found to be over priced and not the best, but then everything in sweden is over priced.....' what size ropes have you run on the tree runner? like i say i'm tempted by the polydyne 14mm rope, i think that can handle most things I do.

Me and my mate both live in Sweden, I'm down in the south, Malmö just opposite Denmark. its cheaper to get kit shipped over than to buy it here most of the time....... I worked for Amber tree care near Gainsborough, Milleneium Tree Care, Marshall Tree Care before Lee packed up and moved away, Enterprise, did some work along side continental landscapes in lincoln city. Yeah Riseholm was a kind of cool, good times had there, i lived on campus for two years whilst doing my ND, I'm definitely more north side of Lincolnshire than your self. DO you know John Dawson? he's from that neck of the woods i think....

also majestic, where abouts in Lincolnshire are you based? i may have asked already but i cant remember, i used to stomp around there quite a bit, Scunthorpe, studied at riseholme near lincoln, owrked for a company near newark etc.

a mate over here just had a tree runner shipped over, but wont be working with him again until august..... I really like how simple the treerunner looks to set up, sometimes i have to sub in to companies who give me blokes to ground who have never rigged, so i figure the tree runner is so simple to set up, no flapping a round, no need to feed through a bight etc, though this wouldnt be a problem but sometimes there are language difficulties. i think i will go for that and run a 14mm polydyne rope on it as i this will cover me for most stuff i come across.

the gps locator could be given a miss for most though, unless there is no mobile signal etc, but then if there is no mobile signal then that should have been planned into the risk assessment and suitable measures taken. A climber i know Pete did a course in first aid with lots of severed limbs etc, sounded good, sick of hearing office types on my refreshers moan about tripping over bins and paper cuts. The kit sounds and looks like the proper deal, and could well save some ones life, and considering how harsh the serious injuries incured in tree work are then if not the kit in full...(cotton buds? saw dust in your ears??) but bandages etc, blood stoppers etc should definitely be included in any kit. - you just got to read some of the accidents reported on here to know all of this stuff is good, the kid who gashed his neck in the tree, hell he would be dead if all they had were a few plasters and a triangle bandage, a story where the grounds man went into shock and froze up and was thus useless - perhaps a days training having blood and limbs chucked at him might have prepared him a little, I think the current emergancy first response etc, which appears more to be dealing with your fat office based types dieing of heart attacks from too many mc d's. Companies should rehearse emergancy rescues - an a company i worked for use to to do this, usally if it looked like we were on for an early finish, the opps manager would come up to the tree and say 'you've just cut your arm, blow on your whistle and after 2 minutes black out' it was a pain in the ass sometimes, but other times it was fun and prepared us for the moments where it was a real situation..... i wonder how many climbers have done a rescue climb since their cs38....... perhaps it should become a requirement to have the rescue climb reviewed every 3 years as well? or even less, make sure climbers are still familiar.

looking for info form those who have used these, i have played with the stein, very nice bit of kit, but i like the simplicity in set up presented by the tree runner though have yet to use one myself, but its looking more and more that these kind of lowering bollards are becoming fast favourites . How do they compare with regards to the size of wood you can drop on them, i remember on another thread talk of being able to drop more on the tree runner due to its stability against the tree,

confused as to the purpose of the ring....

on the canal i used solar for 12volts, good in summer, though doesnt give a deep enough charge, i dont understand why more stuff isnt run on 12 volts, if done right you can run anything, A mate had a wind turbine, worked kind of, but again more of a trickle charge than a deep charge...... not really relevant to land dwellers, but if you are just thinking about powering stuff in your shed, then some good (and thats the key good') leisure batteries and a transformer and your laughing, but watch out for voltage drop if you running wires else you could end up with fires.

oops she got it wrong, we now have cleared it up, yes i now know en, or enbuske, we have to protect them when we are doing rail clearance in småland, i like the fact there is in fact a swedish form, Juniperus communis suecica which i have seen quite a lot very distinctive form.

ah! missus just told me, yes i fight with en on occasions not so bad here as in the uk though

I'm down in tropical Skåne that has such crazy things as these exotics , hornbeams i like, not so many but i see a few, though most people i know call them just Aven, not sure on En though? keeping in line with the thread, when i first came over and dealt with people who actually know about trees (so not the infamous tree felling team company) when i couldnt understand their swedish we used the Scientific names so i knew which trees to prune and fell etc., so it helps, and when putting your self across as a professional arborist some people like to show off their own knowledge of scientific names so it helps to know what they are talking about.