RobArb

PS, I'm not arguing, I believe you and am actually intrigued to find out what it was that got me:biggrin: Sent from my Galaxy S2

It was orange and looked like a small stick insect, I'll see if I can find a similar google image Sent from my Galaxy S2

Believe me, an orange Ichneumon wasp stung the back of my knee. That or it bit, but it hurt, and I squished it... (I was 17) I remember it being an Ichneumon wasp because I had to look it up... Sent from my Galaxy S2

Ok, maybe the one in the picture doesn't (which I didn't see before) but the orange ones certainly do...! And it hurt! Sent from my Galaxy S2

Been stung by one, ouch! Sent from my Galaxy S2

Not this year now Sent from my Galaxy S2

really enjoying it still :-)

Haha, best advertisement ever:lol: Sent from my Galaxy S2

agreed:thumbup:

Ok cheers:thumbup:, I'll check with the TO tomorrow Sent from my Galaxy S2

ICF:biggrin:

Filling in an application for a TPO but can't find the first schedule that it states i need to cross reference the trees on the application with. looked on the LA website and planning portal but can't seem to find it, is it online at all?

Any pictures:001_tt2: Could be a specific cultivar who's leaves have reverted back to original form on a few branches? Sent from my Galaxy S2

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I remember now, didn't associate with you being in Nottingham (I'm forgetful unless I write things down) Sent from my Galaxy S2

You are a new lad aren't you? Sent from my Galaxy S2

Nice post, but kind of deterring from the original point of how to follow instructions, regardless of age:biggrin: Sent from my Galaxy S2

i can feel it in me bones Jon, summer's here, and here to stay:biggrin:

the stihl's (the orange ones) make even the dullest day look sunny:biggrin:

no we didn't:lol:

Fair enough, was only a passing thought in todays heat:biggrin: Would be a fascinating experiment to find out the value of one specific job from the dozens of minds of arbs:thumbup: Sent from my Galaxy S2

Don't know if any of you have heard about "Crowd Wisdom" but i think its fascinating. Basically its the combined aggregate information of a number of people, tends to give accurate results in terms of the real estimate. For example, if we take a jar full of sweets and ask 100 people to guess how many sweets are in that jar, the 100 guesses totalled and averaged are normally exact, to within a couple of sweets! This only works when the information from other peoples guesses is kept secret, i think studies have proven that if current guesses are shown to the guesser's, the total far exceeds the actual number of sweets in the jar... anyway, i'll stop rambling as it got me thinking.. what is the true value of tree jobs within our industry, and i don't mean a generic value because every job is different and incurs different costs for one thing and another, but... We could find out the true value for one specific job and build up a database of information. If we took one job, lets say a largish Beech in a back garden, not directly fellable, but a decent dropzone, a day climbing and dismantlling, half a day shifting timber, drag of about 40ft from tree to chipper. I know there are a lot of variables because everybody works differently but say as a customer/client we got 100 arb's (not really possible logistically though) to quote for this one job and then averaged the quotes, would we get a true value of what that job is worth doing for? Could this be applied elsewhere in arb? Or am i just going on a mad monday afternoon ramble coz the sun is out?

Agreed:congrats: It does work both ways too!

no time limit, but there's a guy on youtube who ate it all in 14mins! last time i do anything like this, i ain't got the stomach for it no more:lol: ps, its bigger than it looks:biggrin: