Mesterh

OK. It doesnt sound nice for that person but do you think it is then OK for them to put others at risk due to their condition? I think not, maybe they should be on sick leave or something along those lines for the sake of others, otherwise it makes a farce of the whole thing. I'm sure there are plenty of people that will have genuine problems with wearing a face covering, maybe they can wear one of those plastic face shields or they may have to adapt to the current situation by not putting themselves in situations they cant physically deal with. I dont know but there are usually some remedies if you look into it hard enough. Look at self preservation and how you can adapt to it. Ive heard a lot of people complaining that they cant breathe properly through a face covering (these are people that dont have lung conditions) , yes you dont breathe as normal but you can breathe its just a bit weird. Have you seen how many fat nurses there are out there that wear a mask? ?

Apparently its not for some bizarre reason!

Cant you just order online then and have it delivered to your home? Its not about catching the virus its about spreading it. If you are a super spreader and dont were a mask you can spread it to a lot of others, thats a fact. Im not going to put a link up as there is enough info out there to those who want to read the current facts.

Just put it on and dont mess with it. Transmission through touching things then yourself is extremely low, so I would worry less about fiddling with your mask than actually wearing it. The whole point of a face covering is to stop the wearing transmitting the virus to others, if we all wore them when in close proximity to others then the R rate would drop which would help us all in resuming business as usual quicker, which I guess most of us on here would like to see. I think wearing a face mask is a self conscious thing more than anything else as it doesnt feel natural thats for sure! I'm hoping that if we all do our bit then the economy can get moving quicker rather than see a lot of local lockdowns which will happen if there are spikes. I was speaking to a local neighbour today whos Mrs had it back in late Jan (late 30's), he didnt get it or his son but she now has high blood pressure as a result so its not all about catching it and surviving it is also about the long term affects. She was only ill for a couple of days with no cough but flu like symptoms.

That's a video that I won't tire of watching.

Stop crying over nothing ffs. I've been out shopping today, I wore a face covering along with everyone else and didn't see anyone having a strop, I then went home. It couldn't be much simpler. Have a quick think of why you don't need to wear a mask while eating or drinking, then think is it better to move the economy along or not. If you want the economy to kick start then you need to accept the current guidelines. It's not rocket science.

Have you asked him why it has jumped up to 8 hours work from 4? If he can break it down and it seems reasonable then I think you should pay the cost and move on. If it doesn't seem reasonable then you could argue against it but as others have said it's an estimate, always best to get a quote for everything.

Surely that also works the other way round too, BS protests from people calling others sheep and idiots for conforming to current advice. Saying they lack intelligence because they listen to experts rather than make their own mind up. I dont run a medical research laboratory, how else am I supposed to 'decide' if wearing a mask has benefits or not if I dont listen to those that do the research. Anyway, each to their own. I'll be wearing a mask where required, if people think I'm an idiotic sheep for doing so then so be it, not all of us have Supergran powers like the above

Indeed! Worth getting it checked for dead wood as they are brittle enough anyway. Not that the last bit needs to be of concern but it is worth getting an inspection carried out.

I certainly wont disagree with that. There is enough information out there to show how to wear them properly, although you would think common sense would prevail in actually using it to cover their mouth and nose.

You mentioned something about links before you edited your post. Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) WWW.CDC.GOV Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) is a virus (more specifically, a coronavirus)... Q&A: Masks and COVID-19 WWW.WHO.INT There have been medical experts who said we should have had face coverings from the start but the lack of ppe soon put a stop to those suggestions. Depends what you read and who you believe, there will always be arguments for and against. Look what happened in regards to measels due to ant-vaxx believers.

Well yes! I think it's best to take advice from the majority of professional experts rather than just someone who has no expertise in the relevant field and just decided that they know what's best. I'm not sure how that can be reasonably argued against tbh.

That's old news, things have changed a lot since then. The CDC and WHO amongst many others recommend wearing face coverings, surely they know best?

Hence the problem with this novel virus. Its an unknown. Why are children not super spreaders when they usually are? Why is your mate still alive when other healthy people of his age are on incubators? I guess in few years time we may know the answer. In the meanwhile wear a face covering, social distance and not get hell bent on thinking its a conspiracy to do what.........?

The point ref the virus and comparisons to other diseases was clearly stated as worldwide not UK alone Fair enough, which disease can we do more about? A lot of people in S Africa die of malaria and HIV, what effect does that have to do with me wearing a mask to shop in tescos to help prevent me spreading a disease as I dont understand? If you want to go down the Road of preventable illness and protecting the nhs you could ban tobacco use in the UK tomorrow. I’ve never smoked and hate the habit but would not advocate a ban as if people want to smoke it’s not my business, but as has happened to myself and other FAC holders over the years with control and bans etc, if it doesn’t effect people they don’t care and gradually the level of control is increased usually all in the name of keeping the public safe Well, they did ban smoking in public places to help prevent others from suffering which does affect people and was a very good move, and I am a smoker. You couldnt ban smoking without banning alcohol, you couldnt ban those without banning unhealthy food, there are limits. Sorry, I dont know what a FAC holder is. The reaction based on the numbers and statistics are totally out of proportion In respect to what? In the countries that have done sweet FA the numbers are still rising, those that have implemented stronger restrictions the numbers are lower. That is my opinion based on what I’ve seen, read,studied and experienced first hand. As stated in another post I was part of the DMT response earlier in this so called pandemic and would have supported measures based upon the initial information that came in, I also dont know what DMT response is either. Scottish figures for example are virtually zero but the grip of control by the SNP is being rigidly kept hold of. Maybe to keep the figures down? If in 12 months time the USA is clear of covid and business is usual then im sure we will follow suit as I presume the UK government wants us out and about, spending money as usual rather than sitting at home saving money and sponging off them.

Yes. Surely its not hard to believe that there are a lot of arseholes out there. We have seen plenty in our industry, in real life and social media. Monkey see monkey do. Idiots attract idiots. No doubt the chippy owners and the tourists thought it was OK as Mr in charge didnt give a fook. A member of my family works on a covid ward, she has came down with a lot of nasty diseases over the years due to poor hygiene in the workplace. She was saying the way people die of covid is horrible to say the least, but yet staff who treat these patients still disregard simple rules, used clothing just thrown about the place instead of placed in specialist bins, lack of cleanliness and a simple disregards for others. Just because some people act like they dont care doesnt mean its the right thing to do. How many bent coppers are there out there, how many corrupt judges take a back hander, how many site managers take a brown envelope and cut a few corners to keep their boys in a job?

Simple, you get arseholes in every occupation.

Just normal people doing an everyday job working in a distribution centre. One would still be alive and the other living a normal life if it wasn't for covid. I doubt the out come would of been the same had it been flu. Seems to be the problem atm, it spreads quite quickly and is far more deadly than say the flu which is the virus most people compare it to for some reason. bollocks to wearing a mask or social distancing just to prevent even a common cold or the flu what kind of pathetic existence is that Missed my point on that one. Masks and distancing for covid will prevent the spread of other diseases that's all. Of course it would be pathetic to do that just for the common cold or flu. Just must have been fuming when the controlling elites of society started pulling our strings and told us we should sneeze and cough into our elbows. ? "No bloody chance, I will cough and fart how I bloody well like!" Which other viruses are causing more problems in the uk then?

The pub thing is just to get businesses up and running again, wouldnt work if you had to wear a mask. Kids dont seem to be transmitting the virus to either each other or to adults so they are a very low risk. So really its not a big ask to wear a mask and it cuts the transmission rate a lot, doesnt stop you catching it but it helps to stop you spreading it. Thats not just stuff ive read but info from my mrs who is involved in the research of covid.

I’m on a job with two 16 man teams and no one on here knows anyone personally whom has died from the virus A few of my cousins co workers had it, one died from it (age46) another now has to have dialysis due to shot kidneys (age 51). no one gives a shit about many of the other diseases or indeed common flu that kills thousands every year There isnt much that can be about a lot of disease as they are already well established hence the big push to try and control this one, but, social distancing and wearing a mask will no doubt slow down the spread of say the flu, common cold etc this year. What about the ire of the person who has lost everything they have worked for for 35yrs due to ludicrous Government over reaction. A huge problem no doubt but better that than dead, or dealing with the grieving of lost loved ones.

I guess the moral of this thread is its best to follow what the manufacture states regardless. Lubricating a bolt affects the torque fairly massively from what I can see, something I never realised before reading this thread. I always thought it best to lubricate the bolt, looks like I need to be more careful in the future. As previously mentioned I do give the blades a tap to check if they are cracked.

I will keep believing those who are professionals in their field. Those who are still saying we should have locked down earlier and we should still have tighter restrictions in place, these are medical experts who advise the government but their views fall on deaf ears as the government want us back out at work. You just keep believing that everyone is out to get us. I would rather listen to experts than someone down the pub who just uses their 'common' sense. Over 11,000,000 infected and over 500,000 dead, imagine what that would be if most of the planet wasnt isolating for the last three months, 10 times, 100 times more?

190,000 new cases yesterday, compared to 160,000 last week, seems like its climbing to me. Im talking globally mainly due to those countries not who arent imposing a proper lockdown. It is declining in the UK for now.

Ignore him, he said if there wasnt more than 50,000 cases in April it was a hoax, we have 10 times that amount now and still climbing at a ridiculous rate.

Fook off! I think they would be better lobbying to get it made compulsory, at least then they could pull the 'Bigger boys made me do it card'