Tom D

I used to leave one guy doing logs when I was busy with other stuff. (arbtalk) He used to average 8-10 cube a day sawing the cord and splitting with a pto splitter. Now we are still doing crappy arb waste but with 2-3 guys and a 30 ton billet splitter and a processor, we can do 20-50 cube a day depending on what sort of stuff we are dealing with.

Tell them you'll do it for £50 because you love felling big trees. That way you'll get the job and you can see how long it takes so next time you'll know how much to charge. With big trees forget about the brash, its the timber that takes time. Crane and a couple of 20yd skips and do it in a day, or 5 days cunning it all up and taking it away in a transit. I did one in the snow a while back, only had the landy and trailer, it was 10 loads of timber, and the client kept the cord wood.

:001_rolleyes:Yes!

A woman Hit my wires freelander today whilst parking. Luckily my mother in law was in the car and saw what happened, she got out to get the woman's details and she hit it again! This is the space she was trying to get in to..... says it all really.. BTW she was going to the opticians:lol:

Where did you get them? I like the look of those..

I use em for cherry, I'd take them off you if I was nearer...

Nothing wrong with getting WTC etc, we do, I still pay more tax than we get back which is how it should be... I would bet that most tree surgeons with kids will be eligible. Its not exactly a high paid job.

I doubt a 25hp kubota would lift that back actor...

Its blossom wilt on the cherry, They all have it round here, I am blaming the weather.

TO's a muppet. We are lucky round here, the TO's are knowledgable and reasonable.

Burkina Faso!!!! where ever that is... All I can say is if all the men there look like me they have the luckiest ladies on earth.

Dowy?

We did a job this week, felling an elm and a poplar, not small trees, they were in a walled garden with roads on 2 sides, the temporary access was a very steep mound of type 1. We took the transit and chipper, the landy towing the wee tractor and the valtra and big trailer. We brought the brash out with the wee tractor, up and down the type 1, and used it to move the timber nearer the walls so that the crane could reach over and lift it out. The whole job was so easy, and would have taken us 2 days with the transit / landy /trailer combo and 3-4 days with just the transit/chipper. Timber shifters are sooo good. I'd sell a kidney before I sold the tractor. Having said that I am getting a little out of shape now that we don't work as hard.

I loose a lot of work that I quote for, if I didn't I would know that I was too cheap. If you win every job you are undercharging. I also loose a lot of jobs where I am subcontracting and the main contractors margin has pushed the price too high. BUT I would not have been quoting for that job anyway so whats the problem?

Sad to see, I have had a winch nicked off the front of a landy..

I'have seen that before, not sure what it is though. Its probably just feeding on dead wood, the tree being killed by something else. Honey fungus maybe, did you lift any bark?

Awesome stuff, just make sure you get the super fast setting one, by the time the end post is in you can be nailing boards on at the beginning... means a short fence can easily be done in a day.

I hope they get the bastards. Why not post a sticky up with all the serial numbers just in case, folks on here seem pretty quick to spot an ebay scam, might as well use them to look for stolen stuff.

I'll tell you one thing............ Its not 38! 25-35 for me, starting to fall off a bit now. Spending more time pointing at stuff and driving machines hasn't helped..

We need to subsidise our farmers as they compete in a world market, as tree surgeons we don't. The huge wheat farms of the ukraine, usa, canada, and australia will always be able to produce grain for less than we can in europe. Even though their yields per acre are much lower than ours the economies of scale realy add up. They don't have to conform to all the environmental rules that our farmers do and their labour costs are less. If indian companies started doing tree work paying their staff a pound a day and putting us all out of business then we would be asking for handouts too. What is interesting is that we are approaching the time when our subsidies are no longer required, the huge expanding world population and the higher net cost of fuel world wide has pushed up the price of food to the extent that with the right management our farmers could probably live without subsidies.. Problem is; try telling that to the French!

I started working for another firm, then got a £5k loan from the princes trust and £5k on an interest free credit card to go it alone. I have worked pretty hard since, I sometimes wonder if it was worth it... LOL I make a reasonable living and I have built up £108K worth of kit (actual value, not replacement) which I suppose is an achievement, still a long way from being rich though..

Sorry Rupe that is totally wrong. As far as the tax man is concerned a pool car stays overnight at the work premises, employees must get to work by their own means, if employees are allowed to take it home regularly then it becomes a benefit, and must therefore be taxed. If an employee has the use of a works vehicle, even if it is just used to and from home, then this is a benefit and must be taxed as a company car. These rules are widely abused, they are also very complicated, rates of tax change according to vehicle type i.e. van or car, milage, and emissions.

You seem to be missing the point regarding subcontractor insurance, the reason your insurer insists that any bona fide subby has his own insurance (as main contractor it is your responsibility to check) is that they are washing their hands of any liability. The security firm that you subby to don't need arb insurance. You have the insurance.. all they are required to do is check your insurance is up to the standard required by their client and off you go. If I bring a subby in with a 360 digger I don't need groundworks insurance, I just need to make sure that the subby has it. There is a lot of confusion regarding this in our industry, if you employ subbys they must have their own cover, or you must cover them on your employers liability policy, either as part time employees or hired in labour. No employers cover, and no subby insurance = no cover. simples.

45 can be a pain at times, but if you think about your route through the tree beforehand and get organised its not so bad. We often come across trees where a 35 isn't long enough and occasionally a 45. Nothing more annoying than getting a nice fork with the throw bag and then finding that your rope isn't long enough... It all depends on what the trees in your area are like, round here they are quite big.

Huck is spot on, I have done £00,000's of work as a subcontractor, I'd be mad to try and poach their clients direct. I charge the same as I otherwise would so what's the problem? In these difficult times take whatever work you can get and be grateful...