Rob D

What overseas currency is free? Cause it isn't for me... Yes it is easy within the UK. But what about those that don't own a bank account? How do they send money? Cryptos have the ability to enable the poorest folk on the planet (ok they need a mobile or an internet connection) to send and receive money. https://www.dash.org/2017/11/23/KuvaCash.html That is the thing - yes you can use these currencies for hiding transactions, for being anonymous etc etc - but is that the currency's fault? Yes criminal's use them for that reason. A hammer can be used equally to cave someone's head in as nail a tile onto a church roof but the hammer is just a hammer innit.

Yep - there is an element of that.. and some of the forks have value and some don't and next year that will be the issue with a hundred and one forks going on with Bit this and Bit that.. Hence research is required - research by yourself not your sister's boyfriend's uncle who used to work in the city don't you know and is an exceedingly clever chap!

HAha! that's the plan!

Haha! Yep although I expect you will pay in Neo or Dash or Ripple and battery saws will be so yesterday with the current minature fusion powered top handles with a power supply that lasts 3 years between de contaminations! :))

Like the early cars though if you had the choice between the first ever car built to drive to work on a rainy day or your cosy Navara - you'd go for the Navara... the antique first car may run but you keep that in your garage as it keeps appreciating in value. Bitcoin is like this first car - no doubt folk thought it very odd to start with - unreliable, no power, not that useful. Bitcoin is already becoming like this first car as new more modern crypto currencies start to come through that is more efficient and has more uses. How many cars and choice do you have today? That is the same as the crypto currency... Some will go on to become icons - some will simply just become obsolete.

Nope! - it is EXACTLY like gold - there is a finite number of Bitcoin - and each year it gets harder and harder to mine it and less and less is mined until 2040 when it will be unable to be mined. It is impossible to increase this figure.

Yep well you're right there are now pyramid type selling schemes getting involved with Bitcoin and yes it has now become an industrial process to mine them almost like mining for gold and other minerals. Hence if you ever think of getting involved do your research first... Few points though - what makes you £ or $ note worth anything? It is simply a bit of paper or numbers in your bank account - but you believe in it right? Those pound notes have zero value other than convincing the next guy that they are worth something... but because the next guy does think those bits of paper are worth something they will take them. Bitcoin - there are a limited finite number ($21 million) - that is in stone - you can't replicate them, you can't copy them, you cannot hack them. There an only be a maximum number. No one controls Bitcoin. No one owns bitcoin apart from you if you have some. Money we use now - you can replicate it, some copy it, you can print more if you want to. The more you compare the two the more you see that the £s we use and spend now have less value and less meaning than Bitcoin! (Am NOT saying we don't need £ - am saying if you believe that £ notes have a value then Bitcoin and the like have more reasons to have value. Bitcoin - you can send bitcoin to anyone anywhere in the world with access to the internet. There is NO INTERMEDIARY - no middle man, it is secure. Currency - there is one bitcoin not different types of bitcoin in different countries (like $,Yen,Euros) - it is universal. Money - you can only send it to other people in the world that have a bank account. There is a middle man taking a commission.

Just sticking this up to 'share the love' really.... I heard about Bitcoin a couple of years ago but only just started trading and learning about crypto currency the last few months. Bear in mind I have done a good 3 months of reading online, watching videos, trading - it is a MASSIVE subject that still the large majority know nothing about. And I have only scratched the surface... But this will be bigger than the internet, bigger than mobile phones... (IMO ) - possibly the biggest 'thing' there has ever been... Bitcoin has been out since 2009 - and already it is starting to show it's age. If you think about chainsaws and how they have developed over the years, none of us are using the first chainsaws ever produced... and same with cryptos - new and dynamic ones are being launched all the time. But I'm sure the very first chainsaw would have a large price tag - it just wouldn't be that useful these days.. For the conspiracy folk on here crypto currency was designed to take power away from government and banks and put it back into yours and my hands. But since then it is starting to literally explode with new possibilities.. At the moment the crypto currency world is something of an unregulated wild west but that will change and (because of the internet) it will change rapidly. Next year will start to see the start of practical adoption of these crypto coins. At the moment it's more just about the coins themselves being traded. So what? What are you telling us for - I'll learn about them when they become mainstream... I suppose there is no one answer to that - maybe start looking into it all and make your own mind up. I would not pay too much mind to the 'yeh that Bitcoin is a scam innit' 'criminals use Bitcoin though so it must be bad' 'etc etc etc. The more I find out the more mind blowing the possibilites and implications on how we will live in the future are. Plus if you do your research well and properly you can also make a few quid out of it. Hence thought I'd start a crypto thread PS and you never know someone out there may have got paid in Bitcoin a few years ago , forgotten about it, and this may jog their memory!!

Thanks gents and for those that missed out we have the Echo 2511TES in both a 1/4 .043 guise and a 3/8 lo pro at very good prices still... get 'em while they are hot! https://www.chainsawbars.co.uk/?s=echo+2511TES&submit=Search&post_type=product

Yep here you go https://www.sugiharabarsuk.co.uk/product/bad-karma/

You'll never see these again! Ever! Online deals only - ends midnight Sunday - no calling Monday https://www.chainsawbars.co.uk/?s=Black+Friday&submit=Search&post_type=product

Yep Aberdeen will be highlands but only another £3 or so postage..

We'll be doing a milling kit for the Timberpro 62cc saw soon - only issue is sourcing the ripping chain at the mo... Incidentally we'll be doing a black friday deal next Friday only - EcoMill (36" chilaskan), winch, cord, oiler, fixing kit all for £120-00+vat https://www.chainsawbars.co.uk/product/black-friday-package-new-36-ecomill-winch-cord-oiler-fixing-kit-worth-196vat/

Hi Will - everyone has come back with the same feedback on the Maya chain and it matches my own experience. Basically it is a good chain. I suppose I worry if I get a bulk load in willl the quality be the same? We may well still do it.

Yep - not just hard to track - pretty much impossible... But like a knife you can use it for cutting vegetables or mugging old ladies - clearly the second is wrong but is it the knife's fault?

You can buy it here - yes it's expensive but it is also very very good! https://www.chainsawbars.co.uk/product/3614-stihl-pmx-ripping-chain-38-lo-pro-050-copy/ - use it with the GB Lo Pro Bars..

Haha I wondered who that was! Yep at the moment unless you are sort of 'in' to Bitcoin it won't be worth your while going through the process. Really it's more for people who struggle to have a bank account - folk in say for example Africa and other far flung places really struggle to get the money over to us. They have to use very expensive services and it is a pain for us to then go and collect it and bank it. So you're right at this stage it's not for you - but I reckon around 3 years time it will be more common place and you'll find that maybe even in your Lloyds account you will have a place to keep crypto currency. I love the ethos behind it all - a big two fingered salute to the banks after the rip offs they did in 2008 - they will never be able to control this and it takes away power from banks and government and puts it back in the hands of you and me.

Virtual currency does the opposite though Dan - instead of adding another layer to purchasing it removes all layers. Paypal and the like seem slick and easy to use because the interface between you and paypal has been made easy. Behind taking payments the system is complicated and as a seller using paypal to accept card payments you get to see the massive top heavy infrastructure behind it all. With Alt coins I can pay you wherever you are in the world with no intermediary and the transfer is instant. Direct from me to you. Initially it will seem clumsier because you will want to turn that bitcoin into £ to use elsewhere. Also the technique at the moment is still clumsy but these are the very early days. In the end you will just keep the bitcoin as bitcoin and use it elsewhere. Or whatever currency that is your preference. It will be accepted worldwide. Going abroad? No need to change your currency. Need to pay someone in Mozambique? Easy as paying someone down the road.

Time to step into the future. The future is unlikely to be Bitcoin same as when cars came out no one is now driving a Karl Benz! But it's the first one and the one most people have heard of it. When cars first started appearing no doubt people didn't trust them, most said they will not last, they were slow and unreliabel ... now look at the roads and the choice we have! I believe this will happen with currency - at the moment it may seem faddy, a scam (and some are!), and you don't really understand it. But in the end similar to the internet - there was a time before the internet and there is now a time with the internet. Crypto currency will not just change but revolutionsie how we live and pay for things in the next 5 years possibly and within the next 10 years certainly. Anyways you can now pay with bitcoin on CSB.

Well in the (nearish) future we will be looking at moving on our websites... so if anyone fancies an arb related e commerce style business then get in touch. I'd like to focus more on product development and distribution in the future so the e commerce sites will be packaged up and sold. www.alaskanmill.co.uk will be the cheapest followed by www.sugiharabarsuk.co.uk and then the main flagship www.chainsawbars.co.uk will be next (and that won't be so cheap We would still be suppliers to these websites so in our interest to encourage them to continue to be successful.

Yep no prob give us an e-mail on [email protected] and we could set you up pretty easily as a dealer over there.

Yep should be good

We are starting to push into new territory with the Panther mills. This is a vid of where we are looking to go. You make x3 to x4 cuts without removing the mill from the log. This means coming back down the log on the pushing side of the bar... not been done before I don't think! It actually worked very well - the only issue is to stop the chainsaw bouncing around on the deeper cut... Also we have a vertical version that will run on the same rails. The rails in this vid are the widended rails needed to support the longer 60" mill.. We have Panther 36" mills for sale - the other versions are currently out of stock for a bit https://www.chainsawbars.co.uk/product-category/panther-chainsaw-mills/

Just watched the vid what a neat looking job - great the way they rigged the first one down and out