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sorry, couldn't resist. love that woodland work dean! doesn't come along often enough where i am now. There is definitely room for some sort of schooling in these methods though surely? ok maybe they need to be backed up with some more detail than dadio gives but wouldn't it help, rather than just the crazed teachings on site while fueling up the saws? and obviously some experience to boot!

whats ifaf?

Is it because we associate ourselves with doctors in many ways, in this country a doctor must protect life even against the individuals wishes, euthanasia is not allowed...yet. I do think we in the industry are of the same mind set, and as were not 100% driven by money we cant be taken seriously? so be it... wish we were paid like doctors though!(or solicitors)

They coulda put it in a home, how about longleat?

Would there be scope in a nptc felling a tree from a mewp course, or is felling a tree off the ground just a nono? where is the difference in knocking the top out of a tree and felling a tree? and is there a height we shouldn't fell tops out from say between 0 and 20ft?

I'm exhausted!

Yeah, but he had written a pretty comprehensive description of the method earlier in the thread, i can see where he was coming from, not sure on his conclusions , in this instance i think this is more frustration (purely speculative)

daniels lame response (not excuse) you quoted, sorry dont know how to do multi quotes. charge how? ill check it out now!

stick to your ethics if you can i think, good on you! but times are not looking great right now...... Saying that, the landlady of my yard was trying to get me to do a 30% reduction of a nice yew out the back of one of their properties, (which i can see from the lockup) for light reasons. I talked them into a very minor reduction (just the shooters really) and a 30% thin, it now looks really nice but they want more of a reduction. I've held out so far but may have to give in with it being more than just the money....

yeah, thats a lame response, he's possibly gonna have to do some cutting and pasting from these american sites. I will take your comments on board but wish to make up my own mind

sorry, my point was that watching a video cannot be dangerous, its a video. Things like subliminal messages are dangerous, videos of people convincing others to be suicide bombers due to their faith are dangerous. dadio doesn't, from my perspective try to get everyone watching to use his techniques I pretty sure i've watched all the vids he's posted here.

Fair enough, I was just chucking it out there really. Personally i would have jumped at that job... decisions like this, i think are ones which we have to make, and are brought about by the world we live in. was just wondering on peoples thoughts. Twas definitely a shame and looking forward to any video!

ditto If any of the methods posted were seen to be truly endangering anybody which to me seems frankly ridiculous (i was watching the formula one on the weekend and some of the gymnastics at the commonwealth games....etc etc etc) then i'd hope that the site moderators would moderate appropriately, as it is we can just discuss a different technique and decide if we would use it or not, maybe put it into practice on small trees where if something went wrong nothing would come of it, and if it worked well then use accordingly, all the time making informed, tested decisions.....progress? dare i say. I find dadios explanations to be informative and relatively well explained, if he believes "this is the way to do it" then fair enough, that's his prerogative. Any sort of new or different techniques should surely be accompanied by an explanation (if it's going to help anyone) and when someone is explaining something it is very difficult to not sound like your teaching, is it not? (and there is a warning at the start of the video!) Rob, isn't it ever!

......we all behave like adults?

and post 24.

The reason for the internet (imo) is for the sharing of information, experience and knowledge. We can agree/disagree with whatever is shared, we can take the positives and negatives from this information and do with it whatever we like, it is the freedom of information. If some one is sharing dangerous techniques then the reader should be able to make the informed decision to either use or discard this information. The good side to forums is that people can voice their opinions, so as to let others know any dangers involved in anothers post, so if someone on a worksite were to have never used a certain technique (maybe they came up with it from their own invention) then they have seen the method and know the dangers and should be able to make their own judgement. If someone posted that they exit all trees by unclipping at 15ft and pulling a para roll as it was quicker I would hope we would all have the judgement to either use or discard this method appropriately, even maybe comment their thoughts on using this technique. I would not however advocate some sort of character assassination on the poster as, if it works for them then good luck to them, at least someone would have warned them!(the beauty of forums, info can pass both ways and we can again use or discard the information given) I'm sure all of us do things we wouldn't want a newbie doing, that's what experience brings, I saw things I wouldn't try, so as I never tried them myself (or waited until i had the experience). learn from others mistakes as well as successes, it's all learning. I make these judgements and will always try and make an informed decision.....however the point is made! With the posting of these methods, safe or not in whoever's eyes it means more information out there for us to make our own judgements, it can only be a good thing imo! This is just my opinion on how forums should be used and am in no way encouraging others to do anything they or others consider to be dangerous.

dont get put off by the name but cut the rope is really really addictive!

I'm sure you have a point but having no knowledge of history on other sites the comments seemed intensely prejudiced to the guy, which I found unusual for arbtalk. Thanks for the insight skyhuck. At least there is a reason behind that behaviour. thats more like it lendahand!

I was just being a bit devils advocatish. Think my heckles are up

I just don't find it funny and was backing up my point with something real......right, i'm off to sharpen stuff, make a fire and maybe "drop" a bear

If you wish to talk blowing techniques maybe you should start a different thread. I just believe that criticism on arbtalk should be applicable to the subject matter and constructive, I was just asking a question as to motives and pointing out some odd behaviour which seemed to be repeating it's (ugly) self. I didn't/don't wish to derail this thread, listen to Geoff, he's better at this than me!

Is it to allow for the insertion of a wedge in the compression wood? i guess along with a fanned hinge this could be quite affective when dealing with a side leaner

Nice work as always Reg! Isn't the reason for tpo's so that trees like this are preserved?

that's fair enough, pick all you like at his work practices but my problem with some posts on daniel's threads have nothing to do with his work and just seem to be trying to undermine him by attacking his use of language.....this I don't understand as it's almost looked like some kind of schoolyard bullying at times imo.

I'm with josh, nice work, but what is this two stage fell? also the nitpicking is beginning to leave a bitter taste......whats the deal guys?