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[forestboy1978]

26 minutes ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

You're laying your cards on the table well and truly there mucker.....

 

 

Nothing to disagree with!  But (mindful I haven't read any further yet) you should expect a avalanche of libtard, f*wit, antifa, bremoantard, whining PC BS pretty much as soon as you pressed send on that post..... 

 

 

Mate I can't imagine how it's possible to give less of a fuck! :-)

[the village idiot]

Holy crap! This thread is terrifying.

 

This guy is destabilising the world politically, socially and environmentally to protect the financial interests of one country's population for a short period of time.

 

It may be a spectacle, but it is not good.

[forestboy1978]

I wholeheartedly disagree. Only place that I'd even consider debating is the environment. That said, the paris climate agreement was an exceptionally bad deal for the U.S whilst their greatest competitor was enabled to produce coal for another decade. Not sure I blame him for pulling out of a bad deal. 

 

I just don't buy the whole climate change thing either. Arctic is shrinking where as Antarctic is growing with an over all net gain in ice. Climate always has changed. I spoke to a retired environmental professor from Southampton university who was a customer of mine and he even said it's a load of shit in order to justify a hike in energy costs. 

 

Aside from his enormous ego and grabbing pussies I see him as a straight talker and linear thinker. Media propaganda skews the appearance of his intent massively IMO. 

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

9 minutes ago, the village idiot said:

Holy crap! This thread is terrifying.

 

This guy is destabilising the world politically, socially and environmentally to protect the financial interests of one country's population for a short period of time.

 

It may be a spectacle, but it is not good.

It's a toss of a coin no TVI?

 

A rampaging N Korea, an out of control Iran, a weak Israel....

 

Or a lunatic in the White House.

 

If you absolutely HAD to choose 1 or the other (no middle ground, no alternatives) which would it be??  

[the village idiot]

3 minutes ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

It's a toss of a coin no TVI?

 

A rampaging N Korea, an out of control Iran, a weak Israel....

 

Or a lunatic in the White House.

 

If you absolutely HAD to choose 1 or the other (no middle ground, no alternatives) which would it be??  

No, It's absolutely not a toss of a coin. It's not as simple as an either/or between those options and you know it Kevin.

[stihlmadasever]

Is iran in chaos....the media would have us believe so...but is it.

This is the same Iran that dropped the US dollar,the same as Iraq,Lybia and Syria that stopped trading oil in US dollars and what happened to them...

Perhaps just perhaps were about to see another oil rich middle eastern country bombed,attacked or a rebel group backed by the west to over throw the current regime to allow its oil cache to be traded in US  dollars...

Call me paranoid but its pretty bloody obvious init.Of course the politicians will justify a war by saying its a humanitarian issue or the countrys people are being subjected to inhuman cinditions blah blah...

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

2 minutes ago, stihlmadasever said:

Is iran in chaos....the media would have us believe so...but is it.

This is the same Iran that dropped the US dollar,the same as Iraq,Lybia and Syria that stopped trading oil in US dollars and what happened to them...

Perhaps just perhaps were about to see another oil rich middle eastern country bombed,attacked or a rebel group backed by the west to over throw the current regime to allow its oil cache to be traded in US  dollars...

Call me paranoid but its pretty bloody obvious init.Of course the politicians will justify a war by saying its a humanitarian issue or the countrys people are being subjected to inhuman cinditions blah blah...

No mate, you've bought the line and missed the point!

 

It's not 'external influences' that will result in the demise of despotic regimes in (a) China (b) Iran (c) N Korea, etc....

 

It will be as a result of the uprising of the oppressed peoples of those nations...

 

The irony is almost unbearable  

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

7 minutes ago, the village idiot said:

No, It's absolutely not a toss of a coin. It's not as simple as an either/or between those options and you know it Kevin.

But if you absolutely HAD TO......?

[stihlmadasever]

3 minutes ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

No mate, you've bought the line and missed the point!

 

It's not 'external influences' that will result in the demise of despotic regimes in (a) China (b) Iran (c) N Korea, etc....

 

It will be as a result of the uprising of the oppressed peoples of those nations...

 

The irony is almost unbearable  

The same oppressed people who rose up against the despots of Iraq,Lybia and Syria???

Your deluded kevin

There are many oppressed people in many countries all over the world,christ Africa's got more than its fair share of crackpots but no ones ever interested in deposing those regimes..why?

Little to no natural resourses to plunder thats why.

Why has no one stopped trading with Pakistan,or India who both have countless violations to human rights?

Pakistan has a nucleur deterant but America doesnt seem interested in that either only Borth Korea is looked upon as being capable of starting Ww3 when if were being honest Mr Trump is tweeting about the size of his red button.

But you keep sticking your head in the sand and blaming whinging lefties or the media's blatant attacks on Trump...

i know about politicians lying to the electorate to justify dirty little wars across the globe...i fought in one thanks to blair and his cronnies...

Hows Iraq now after 2 wars....

 

 

[the village idiot]

9 minutes ago, forestboy1978 said:

I just don't buy the whole climate change thing either. Arctic is shrinking where as Antarctic is growing with an over all net gain in ice. Climate always has changed. I spoke to a retired environmental professor from Southampton university who was a customer of mine and he even said it's a load of shit in order to justify a hike in energy costs. 

97% of scientists who work in climate research agree that human activity is accellerating global warming. 3% disagree. This is not 50/50!

 

Imagine there was a huge boulder rolling down a steep cliff. At a particular place there is a split in the route which could take the boulder either way, and you have to stand in one of the two options (left or right).

 

Now you are fortunate and get time to consult geologists, motion specialists, particle physicists, and predictive moddlers. They combine all their expertise and experience and tell you that the evidence concludes there is a 97% chance the boulder will bounce to the right. You would have to be a fool with a death wish or completely insane to choose to stand in the right channel.

 

The only difference with rejecting the scientific concensus on global warming is that instead of yourself, you are putting your grandchild in the path of the boulder.

 

You are not qualified to take a punt on climate change and neither am I. We have to go with the science.